AMIRZA786

I'm in Arvin, CA at the Tejan Ranch Tesla supercharger stop (on my way to SoCal) and so far I haven't seen one Ford or Rivian

LeX2K

That's probably as many stalls in all of Canada.

swajames

So not only did this 2018 Model S deliver well over 400,000 miles on its original battery, the car was mostly DC fast charged and with its life as a limo it was usually getting multiple fast charges per day - pretty much checking all the major "DO NOT DO THIS" boxes The video in the article is interesting, the owner shares some of his experiences.

I think we're well beyond the point where we need to treat concerns about battery longevity in any recent EV as anything other than FUD.

https://insideevs.com/news/717654/te...-mile-battery/

bitkahuna

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because it doesn't have (or use) radar.

doesn't the car have cross traffic alert?

stole from mazda.

right but publications like consumer reports will continue to spout how hybrids are the 'sensible' choice.

Bob04

Time will tell the story. You are already seeing some posts on their forums about buying used Teslas and having to replace the battery within a year or two, paying $15k or $20k. As that happens more and more, and it will, people will avoid five or six year old EVs like the plague. The only way that doesn't happen is if battery prices come down. Waaay down.

AMIRZA786

This is only a quarter of the chargers you're seeing

LeX2K

Time has told the story.

Bob04

Yeah, it has. And it's exactly what I just said. Used EVs are a very expensive ticking time bomb.

SW17LS

In your opinion. I have seen no practical evidence that this is true.

bitkahuna

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so are all used vehicles with a lot of time and miles on them.

AMIRZA786

My friend just recently replaced his M5 with a used 2022 Model Y performance. One man's ticking time bomb is another man's deal. You're basically creating a mountain out of a molehill

Bob04

No, it's 100% fact. Every single one will fail and have to be replaced, even if you don't even drive them, just like your 12v battery.

703

That looks problematic. 0.1% replacement rate on a 1-2 year old EV is too much.

1 Million EVs sold in US in 2023 - that means 1000 batteries!

Bob04

Buying a 2 year old one isn't an issue, especially if you are willing to get a new car every few years.

I'm talking about those cars right at the end of their battery warranty. The average age of a car on the road in the US today is 12.5 years. I doubt hardly any of them have had a $15k or $20k repair, and I doubt most owners feel that is right around the corner for them. With an EV on it's original battery, you better expect it because it is definitely coming, regardless of miles.

When people in the used market go to buy a Camry and it's 10 years old, they look at the mileage. If they find one with low miles, even at the age, they feel very comfortable buying it. Wait until a few more people do that with an EV and get hit with a $15k repair bill for battery replacement. It will happen more and more as EVs age, and they will become throwaway unless battery prices come WAY down.

Allen K

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Yeah, but she was backing out of a parking spot and the person she hit was waiting for the spot. Not a lot of time to react