2019 ES 300h: Differences Between Luxury vs. Ultra Luxury
10-28-18, 09:34 AM
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10-29-18, 07:39 AM
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10-29-18, 10:23 AM
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10-29-18, 10:50 AM
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Looking at your post comparing the two levels of options, it seems that there is no dramatic difference between the luxury and ultra luxury models. I can live without the performance dampers. (I save the performance driving for my Corvette) the semi-aniline leather, and the trunk closer. Although I'll admit that I'd like to have the trunk closing accessory. Point is that I've been looking for an Ultra Luxury model but can't find one in two local dealers. And none (in my color selection) are scheduled to arrive in the near future. I won't special order any car. I don't want the triple LED headlights for $1515.00 or the 18" wheels for $900.00. I don't like the look of the pano roof that, according to the salesman, comes with every UL Lexus. If I had a choice I'd have NO sun roof at all. I'd like to have the ML sound system but don't know if it's available in the Lux level. So maybe I should just accept the Lux model and save some money... Is there something else that I'm missing here that's available only on the UL model?
10-29-18, 11:56 AM
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A dealership said they are simply not making UL hybrids unless special ordered... So I'm guessing most of those 11 are special orders.
10-29-18, 01:04 PM
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11-07-18, 04:08 PM
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We ordered our 2018 ES300h with UL because there the standard (Central Area) build schedule does
not have that combination. While it does take 16 weeks to factory order (built in Japan BTW) we were
moving from lease to lease so it was extra simple to time it out. Oh, and there were no Nightfall
(Dark Blue) with Flaxen (dark tan) and bamboo wood trim either... Like the rear side window shades
(didn't have to tint the windows) and the ML system thunders quite well! Driver's seat extension is OK,
semi-aniline is OK, passenger memory seat is unused.
not have that combination. While it does take 16 weeks to factory order (built in Japan BTW) we were
moving from lease to lease so it was extra simple to time it out. Oh, and there were no Nightfall
(Dark Blue) with Flaxen (dark tan) and bamboo wood trim either... Like the rear side window shades
(didn't have to tint the windows) and the ML system thunders quite well! Driver's seat extension is OK,
semi-aniline is OK, passenger memory seat is unused.
11-08-18, 11:20 AM
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Considering that the MSRP difference between a Luxury 2019 ES and an UL 2019 ES is only $995 and that retrofitting a Luxury ES would require purchasing completely new interior trim panels for the rear doors and the trim around the back seat windows that contains the hooks that the shades clip into (and possibly other parts), I suspect that the cost of parts to do the retrofitting would exceed or, at least, came close to the the price difference between a Luxury and an Ultra Luxury ES. And, if you started out with an UL car, for the extra $995, you would be getting the much nicer semi-aniline leather, 14 way adjustable seats, and rear sunshade that you won't get by spending the money just to retrofit the rear door sunshades.
To me, it wouldn't make much sense to retrofit the rear door sunshades, and it would make a lot more sense to start by spending the extra $995 to get an UL ES. Plus, if you started out with an UL ES, about half of the extra $995 in cost would likely be recovered at trade-in time, which would not be the case for any money spent to retrofit the rear door sunshades.
11-10-18, 12:48 PM
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Consider doing what we did to the 2014 Luxury (not Ultra Luxury) ES300h...tint the windows...
11-11-18, 07:54 AM
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Right.
I wasn't looking at this as a way to save a few hundred bucks... rather, a way to save sixteen weeks!!!
And it was an idle thought, in reality tint or nothing are viable options.
I wasn't looking at this as a way to save a few hundred bucks... rather, a way to save sixteen weeks!!!
And it was an idle thought, in reality tint or nothing are viable options.
11-13-18, 04:36 PM
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11-17-18, 11:06 PM
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I ordered my ES UL Hybrid with black interior, Nightfall Mica with everything but triple beam headlights. I probably won't get it until late February.
11-17-18, 11:12 PM
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From my experience no. If anything it's a little more. I ordered mine and they only took off $1000. Another dealer gave me a similar offer. I was told that when the car comes in they could take off more plus any incentives they have at the time.
11-18-18, 06:06 AM
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An alternative to special ordering would be to have the dealer check to see if they were already expecting delivery on a car that comes close to having the equipment that you would have otherwise wanted in a special order. In that case, all advertised and unadvertised incentives would apply.