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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 08:27 AM
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You just proved me right. Up a hill and when pushed hard, the 4 cyl growls hard and is not a happy camper. If you are one of the smooth riders, then sure you will not have an issue, but if you like to jump into the freeway with some gas power behind you, you will hear the annoying sound. Not to mention the high revs when the battery is charged well. The V6 just glides down the road. In the UAE, we have roads with 140 Kms and 160 Kms as the speed limit and entering the freeway with the v6 power is just pleasureful. The V4 on the RX is the worst thing money can buy.
PS. Great to meet someone with the same config. My wife on the other hand does not complain on the v4 as she barely pushes the car hard enough.

I also do like the sport toggle bar and not to mention the physical buttons. The only thing that I like about the RX is the silent start and nothing else. Why would a luxury car have V4's is beyond me. If you want to save on gas, get a Toyota. The fact that you are putting in a premium, you should get a smooth aspirated v6. My earlier audi had a v6 Turbo and that was a swift engine in an SUV.

If it hadn't been for the Lexus reliability, Lexus would not have been my choice of car.
Thanks, asadani. I always enjoy your informative posts—they give a perspective I can't get for myself in the States.

A small point that's not central to your message: The four-cylinder is actually an "inline 4," not a "V4." The "V" part refers to the physical shape of how the cylinders are arranged. In a V6 or V8, there are two banks of cylinders, 3 or 4 of them on each side, arranged to face each other in a V (mostly to save space). In an inline 4, the four cylinders are all in a single row.

There's a whole other discussion about how these configurations affect sound and vibration. Inline 4's have some natural vibration, which nearly all modern engines offset with built-in "balance shafts" that create offsetting vibrations to cancel them out. V6's have them too, but they work better than in a Four. There are inline 6-cylinder engines too—BMW''s is beloved and famous, and Mazda has an (apparently flawed) new one—and they are naturally smoother than either inline 4's or V6's. And V8's, bless their nearly extinct little hearts, are naturally smooth too.
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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 09:36 AM
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Thanks, asadani. I always enjoy your informative posts—they give a perspective I can't get for myself in the States.

A small point that's not central to your message: The four-cylinder is actually an "inline 4," not a "V4." The "V" part refers to the physical shape of how the cylinders are arranged. In a V6 or V8, there are two banks of cylinders, 3 or 4 of them on each side, arranged to face each other in a V (mostly to save space). In an inline 4, the four cylinders are all in a single row.

There's a whole other discussion about how these configurations affect sound and vibration. Inline 4's have some natural vibration, which nearly all modern engines offset with built-in "balance shafts" that create offsetting vibrations to cancel them out. V6's have them too, but they work better than in a Four. There are inline 6-cylinder engines too—BMW''s is beloved and famous, and Mazda has an (apparently flawed) new one—and they are naturally smoother than either inline 4's or V6's. And V8's, bless their nearly extinct little hearts, are naturally smooth too.
Thanks for the clarification. Learnt something new. On the other hand, if I could afford, I would have gotten the LS 350. The car is built significantly well and the test drive on that was a smooth to another level. Some day when I have the cash, I'll think about it. Over here in the UAE, we pay a good premium on the cars. For example, I got mine for 265,000 AED which is about 72k USD. But then again, I ordered the car before it had arrived with ML sound system. The RX was a purchase only because I got a good deal on it. About 280,000 AED ~76k USD.
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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by asadani
You just proved me right. Up a hill and when pushed hard, the 4 cyl growls hard and is not a happy camper. If you are one of the smooth riders, then sure you will not have an issue, but if you like to jump into the freeway with some gas power behind you, you will hear the annoying sound. Not to mention the high revs when the battery is charged well. The V6 just glides down the road. In the UAE, we have roads with 140 Kms and 160 Kms as the speed limit and entering the freeway with the v6 power is just pleasureful. The V4 on the RX is the worst thing money can buy.
PS. Great to meet someone with the same config. My wife on the other hand does not complain on the v4 as she barely pushes the car hard enough.

I also do like the sport toggle bar and not to mention the physical buttons. The only thing that I like about the RX is the silent start and nothing else. Why would a luxury car have V4's is beyond me. If you want to save on gas, get a Toyota. The fact that you are putting in a premium, you should get a smooth aspirated v6. My earlier audi had a v6 Turbo and that was a swift engine in an SUV.

If it hadn't been for the Lexus reliability, Lexus would not have been my choice of car.
that's ironic - the 2017 RX with V6 was louder than this one when pushed.
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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 10:19 AM
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that's ironic - the 2017 RX with V6 was louder than this one when pushed.
I had test-driven the 2022 RX V6 when I was looking for a replacement to my Audi Q5 V6 Turbo. I found the V6 Rx 2022 underwhelming and yes it was noisy as well, but not as much as the 2023 onwards. Probably the RX500h would have been a better buy. I'm currently eyeing the Audi Q6 etron. Some day.
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I had test-driven the 2022 RX V6 when I was looking for a replacement to my Audi Q5 V6 Turbo. I found the V6 Rx 2022 underwhelming and yes it was noisy as well, but not as much as the 2023 onwards. Probably the RX500h would have been a better buy. I'm currently eyeing the Audi Q6 etron. Some day.
500h is a great move if you want tranny problems!
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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by asadani
I had test-driven the 2022 RX V6 when I was looking for a replacement to my Audi Q5 V6 Turbo. I found the V6 Rx 2022 underwhelming and yes it was noisy as well, but not as much as the 2023 onwards. Probably the RX500h would have been a better buy. I'm currently eyeing the Audi Q6 etron. Some day.
How about RSQ8 - My neighbor has one.
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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How about RSQ8 - My neighbor has one.
Sorry but I have to say this. The reliability of the Audi is down in the gutter. The car gave me nothing but problems after about 80k kilometers. Everything was expensive, even the brake pad change. Not to mention, the car always had a road noise and that was the differential which the dealer never accepted. The lexus on the same road is quiet. I still look at Audi's, the q6 etron, the etron gt. all are dream cars. but at this moment in my life, I am paying for two lexus's and a home etc. don't have any room for car changes now
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by asadani
Sorry but I have to say this. The reliability of the Audi is down in the gutter. The car gave me nothing but problems after about 80k kilometers. Everything was expensive, even the brake pad change. Not to mention, the car always had a road noise and that was the differential which the dealer never accepted. The lexus on the same road is quiet. I still look at Audi's, the q6 etron, the etron gt. all are dream cars. but at this moment in my life, I am paying for two lexus's and a home etc. don't have any room for car changes now
No need to apologize - I've never owned an Audi. My daughter had a Q5 for six years and it was relatively trouble free for nearly 100k miles. Good luck with your payments!
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by asadani
I had test-driven the 2022 RX V6 when I was looking for a replacement to my Audi Q5 V6 Turbo. I found the V6 Rx 2022 underwhelming and yes it was noisy as well, but not as much as the 2023 onwards. Probably the RX500h would have been a better buy. I'm currently eyeing the Audi Q6 etron. Some day.
I found the 2020 Rx450h quieter than the Q5 and Q7 I have been in.
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Old Dec 4, 2024 | 11:14 AM
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My brother-in-law replaced his brand new A5 Turbo's water pump four times under warranty, then he traded-in for X5.
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Old Dec 4, 2024 | 11:37 AM
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My brother-in-law replaced his brand new A5 Turbo's water pump four times under warranty, then he traded-in for X5.
my daughter's q5 turbo went bad with only 5k miles on the car. Then she really had no other issues for the next six years. She's also cruising an X5 now.
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my daughter's q5 turbo went bad with only 5k miles on the car. Then she really had no other issues for the next six years. She's also cruising an X5 now.
Sorry.
Typing error.
My BIL's was a Q5 SUV Turbo; not an A5.
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