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New to Me ES350. My Questions Thread. Pls Help.
Just got this new to me ES 350. See link below.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-surprise.html Can Experienced Owners please help me with some questions, that would likely help other owners too. 1. So I have a Blk/Blk 2013 ES 350 ULTRA LUXURY PACKAGE car. I read a thread saying you have to have a body shop move the xm antenna on the trunk to install the factory rear trunk spoiler? But.... the ES 300h's have them and the xm antenna without a problem, don't they? Lexus parts Dealer says they have been having the Lexus Service department installed without moving antenna? 2. I think I have the HID lights? I think? But they don't project down the road as far and bright as I like. Anyone else notice or have this problem? Any suggestions? Changes? Adjustments? Updates? I have more questions but Ill leave it there, for now. Thanks! |
1) have a spoiler on the trunk and get XM satellite radio, so there's definitely a combination of this that works.
2) Make sure you actually have HIDs first. Is there a sort of "warm up" adjustment period where they start down and then go up when you first flip them on? Do they have a bright white look or do they have some yellow in them? If they just come on instantly and have a yellow color, its probably the standard halogen. You can also simply pull the bulb and tell also. |
Originally Posted by jgscott
(Post 9975397)
Just got this new to me ES 350. See link below.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-surprise.html Can Experienced Owners please help me with some questions, that would likely help other owners too. 1. So I have a Blk/Blk 2013 ES 350 ULTRA LUXURY PACKAGE car. I read a thread saying you have to have a body shop move the xm antenna on the trunk to install the factory rear trunk spoiler? But.... the ES 300h's have them and the xm antenna without a problem, don't they? Lexus parts Dealer says they have been having the Lexus Service department installed without moving antenna? 2. I think I have the HID lights? I think? But they don't project down the road as far and bright as I like. Anyone else notice or have this problem? Any suggestions? Changes? Adjustments? Updates? I have more questions but Ill leave it there, for now. Thanks! |
Originally Posted by BradTank
(Post 9975509)
1) have a spoiler on the trunk and get XM satellite radio, so there's definitely a combination of this that works.
2) Make sure you actually have HIDs first. Is there a sort of "warm up" adjustment period where they start down and then go up when you first flip them on? Do they have a bright white look or do they have some yellow in them? If they just come on instantly and have a yellow color, its probably the standard halogen. You can also simply pull the bulb and tell also. Here are 2 threads that confused me, saying you could Not install on the Ultra Lux with xm antenna on trunk.:confused: https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...k-spoiler.html https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...stalled-2.html |
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Originally Posted by jollick
(Post 9975536)
To find out if you have HID or not see my post with photos here. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...-and-ul-3.html
So I cheated call a Lexus dealer parts, gave the VIN# and found out that they are HID's on My ES 350. Now while under the hood I saw the below pic of d/u and l/r markings in the black plastic cover housing. Guessing that is a adjustment for the headlights l/r, and down and up. I now need to know how and where the adjustment screw or whatever is? I guess you remove the black plastic cover in my pic, and there is a adjustment there. Anyone adjusted theses up or know a thread on how to? My lights are pointing too far down. Maybe as a result of the bumper headlight repair to my car, something got off, or moved, or maybe never correct from the factory. Lexus dealer said they are 35watt, $179 per bulb. I'm also wondering, if there is a brighter better replacement bulb I could run? They are ok bright, but just short on distance, pointing down the road past the cut off. (SEE RED CIRLE AT BOTTOM LEFT OF PIC) |
Originally Posted by jgscott
(Post 9976226)
Thanks. So I pulled the round waterproof rubber round cap off the back of the headlight housing off my car. It had some clips, and I pulled the braided wire flat cable off. That as far as I wanted to go without knowing exactly how to take the clips off before I broke something. I was kinda sure they were HID' s at that point.
So I cheated call a Lexus dealer parts, gave the VIN# and found out that they are HID's on My ES 350. Now while under the hood I saw the below pic of d/u and l/r markings in the black plastic cover housing. Guessing that is a adjustment for the headlights l/r, and down and up. I now need to know how and where the adjustment screw or whatever is? I guess you remove the black plastic cover in my pic, and there is a adjustment there. Anyone adjusted theses up or know a thread on how to? My lights are pointing too far down. Maybe as a result of the bumper headlight repair to my car, something got off, or moved, or maybe never correct from the factory. Lexus dealer said they are 35watt, $179 per bulb. I'm also wondering, if there is a brighter better replacement bulb I could run? They are ok bright, but just short on distance, pointing down the road past the cut off. (SEE RED CIRLE AT BOTTOM LEFT OF PIC) |
So I adjusted the lights. I was beginning to really worry about the short light pattern at night and limited site that I might run into something in the road.
It was very simple and like most Japanese cars. Much better now, but still not as bright as most HID's. Now I just need to work out a few more things. Thanks. |
Originally Posted by jgscott
(Post 9977472)
So I adjusted the lights. I was beginning to really worry about the short light pattern at night and limited site that I might run into something in the road.
It was very simple and like most Japanese cars. Much better now, but still not as bright as most HID's. Now I just need to work out a few more things. Thanks. Look into ddmtunning.com |
Originally Posted by BigRon12
(Post 9977605)
I purchased a set of aftermarket HID 6k bulbs for my 2014 UL ES350 and they have been a great improvement over the factory set of bulbs.
Look into ddmtunning.com So what is the improvement you noticed? And which ones/model did you get from ddmtunning? They were not Blue were they? I hate Blue Headlights. |
Morimoto 55000k XB series...
The IS has D4S bulbs, that may be D2S... Amazoo $30 ea and no, they don't look blue at all. Just white. May not be the best if snowing tho! Do NOT touch the glass at all or it will kill the bulb. Wipe with IPA and lint free cotton cloth, let dry then install new bulb. Don't risk that box install w out wipe down, OK... |
Originally Posted by 2013FSport
(Post 9977743)
Morimoto 55000k XB series...
The IS has D4S bulbs, that may be D2S... Amazoo $30 ea and no, they don't look blue at all. Just white. May not be the best if snowing tho! Do NOT touch the glass at all or it will kill the bulb. Wipe with IPA and lint free cotton cloth, let dry then install new bulb. Don't risk that box install w out wipe down, OK... What was the improvement you saw at night? |
Originally Posted by jgscott
(Post 9977949)
Thanks. So get the Morimoto 55000k XB series, that fit the ES 350?
What was the improvement you saw at night? |
Originally Posted by 2013FSport
(Post 9978462)
Both distance and clarity. But the main thing is these bulbs start every time time and stay on. Not all bulbs are equal and no clue how long they will last.
Going to get the PIAA 9006 PIAA Xtreme White Bulbs Hi- Beam bulbs also So my next light issue is those terrible looking yellow fog lights. Saw the $130 upgraded Philips 12834UNIX2 X-tremeVision LED Fog Light Kit. They are $120. Not really feeling $120 and they are not really putting out that much better light down the road from what I read on the reviews. Trying to find a Bright pure white H16 Regular Halogen Fog light Bulb? Anyone have a recommendation? |
Replacement HID bulbs won't have any impact on distance, the system doesn't work that way. The HID projectors have a cutoff where light is actually physically blocked beyond a certain distance. All the higher color temp bulbs do is change the color of the lights, and higher than the factory 4,100 is actually dimmer. So the Morimoto 5500 bulbs will actually have less light output than the factory 4,100k bulbs. They may look "brighter" and "whiter", but in reality they put out less usable light.
I replaced the factory HID bulbs in my LS with a set of Osram CBI bulbs, they have a 5000k color temp but put out the same lumens as a 4,100k bulb. Very happy with them, but even with them theres really no lighting "improvement", they just look nicer. Lexus aims their HIDs pretty low from the factory. If you want more distance the only thing you can do is adjust them up. Sounds like you need some more adjustment. For your fogs, any halogen bulb will look yellow next to the HIDs, especially if you're going to put 5,500k bulbs in. If you want the closest match and best output you need to replace the whole housing with the LED units off the 14-16 ES. I did that on my GS (same lamp housing) and the difference was huge. |
Originally Posted by SW15LS
(Post 9979427)
Replacement HID bulbs won't have any impact on distance, the system doesn't work that way. The HID projectors have a cutoff where light is actually physically blocked beyond a certain distance. All the higher color temp bulbs do is change the color of the lights, and higher than the factory 4,100 is actually dimmer. So the Morimoto 5500 bulbs will actually have less light output than the factory 4,100k bulbs. They may look "brighter" and "whiter", but in reality they put out less usable light.
I replaced the factory HID bulbs in my LS with a set of Osram CBI bulbs, they have a 5000k color temp but put out the same lumens as a 4,100k bulb. Very happy with them, but even with them theres really no lighting "improvement", they just look nicer. Lexus aims their HIDs pretty low from the factory. If you want more distance the only thing you can do is adjust them up. Sounds like you need some more adjustment. And yes I have played around with getting the best adjustment aim, and am still making adjustments................................. but a Brighter light blub would be nice too. The brighter the light the further it can be aimed out down the road. Here is something I found: Which D2S HID Bulb is the Brightest? Morimoto, GTR Lighting, Osram CBI or Philips Xtreme? |
That's the point, 5500k bulbs are not brighter than 4100k bulbs, they are dimmer. That's physics, the higher color temperature has lower light output.
Well documented on the internet. As I said, if you care about light output you should purchase a bulb with the highest amount of lumens, not the highest color temperature. You are also incorrect that the brighter bulb "can be aimed further down the road", you don't understand how the projectors are designed. They deliberately cut off projection down the road to avoid blinding incoming drivers. That's why HID bulbs have such a sharp cutoff compared to halogen bulbs, that's by design. Your current bulbs are the brightest bulbs (in terms of output) you will get, lighting up the road further down is just a function of aim. Is this your first car with HIDs? Take some time to get used to them. You will get used to the cutoff. I've had cars with HIDS for almost 20 years, I've only had to adjust the lamp aim on one car, my 2013 GS, and only slightly. |
Originally Posted by SW15LS
(Post 9979539)
That's the point, 5500k bulbs are not brighter than 4100k bulbs, they are dimmer. That's physics, the higher color temperature has lower light output.
Well documented on the internet. As I said, if you care about light output you should purchase a bulb with the highest amount of lumens, not the highest color temperature. You are also incorrect that the brighter bulb "can be aimed further down the road", you don't understand how the projectors are designed. They deliberately cut off projection down the road to avoid blinding incoming drivers. That's why HID bulbs have such a sharp cutoff compared to halogen bulbs, that's by design. Your current bulbs are the brightest bulbs (in terms of output) you will get, lighting up the road further down is just a function of aim. Is this your first car with HIDs? Take some time to get used to them. You will get used to the cutoff. I've had cars with HIDS for almost 20 years, I've only had to adjust the lamp aim on one car, my 2013 GS, and only slightly. You can move the projection down the road by adjustments of the aim upward. And a brighter light is brighter. And not all HID projectors cut off blinding on coming cars. There are a few cars and truck out there that the factory HID systems blind everyone on low. Thanks for your opinion. So what blub would you suggest, that has highest amount of lumens, not the highest color temperature????? That's what I would like to know. That would be helpful. |
Originally Posted by jgscott
LOL! 1st car with HID's 2002. I think. And I never said that 5500k bulbs are brighter than 4100k bulbs. Not sure where you got that from? And FYI people do have variable eye site.
You can move the projection down the road by adjustments of the aim upward. And a brighter light is brighter. If you want brighter bulbs, and you purchased 5500k bulbs it only makes sense you would think they were brighter. It's important to note that with a physical cutoff designed into the projector system a brighter bulb WILL NOT project any further down the road. They bulbs you have are capable of projecting much farther than they do, they are physically blocked by doing so. And not all HID projectors cut off blinding on coming cars. There are a few cars and truck out there that the factory HID systems blind everyone on low. Thanks for your opinion. So what blub would you suggest, that has highest amount of lumens, not the highest color temperature????? That's what I would like to know. That would be helpful. I already told you what I recommend in an earlier post. I would look into Osram CBI (Cool Blue Intense). The name is terrible, they aren't blue at all. They're a 4,800-5,000k color temp which is whiter (no yellow, but no blue) while still putting out 3,100-3,200 lumens which is what a 4,100k bulb does. Osram makes the OEM bulbs also, at least the ones in my LS. I did a ton of research before I bought these and read dozens and dozens of sources. I wanted better color and brighter light to match my LED fogs better, but I didn't want to give up any output, these were the only game in town. Now there are a couple competitors with a similar product. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bu...66440-cbi.html |
Originally Posted by SW15LS
(Post 9979702)
These statements are not logical. You have said you want brighter lights. You purchased a set of Morimoto 5500k bulbs, which are in fact dimmer than the OEM 4100k bulbs. Do you see where that doesn't make any sense?
If you want brighter bulbs, and you purchased 5500k bulbs it only makes sense you would think they were brighter. It's important to note that with a physical cutoff designed into the projector system a brighter bulb WILL NOT project any further down the road. They bulbs you have are capable of projecting much farther than they do, they are physically blocked by doing so. Yes they do. Any system that does not have a cutoff would not be DOT legal in the United States. In any event we are talking about your Lexus which absolutely 100% has a cutoff. Some cars may blind you, but they still have a cutoff it's just designed differently or the owner has re-aimed them as you're trying to do. It's really not an opinion, if you do a little googling and research on your own you will see that I'm correct. I already told you what I recommend in an earlier post. I would look into Osram CBI (Cool Blue Intense). The name is terrible, they aren't blue at all. They're a 4,800-5,000k color temp which is whiter (no yellow, but no blue) while still putting out 3,100-3,200 lumens which is what a 4,100k bulb does. Osram makes the OEM bulbs also, at least the ones in my LS. I did a ton of research before I bought these and read dozens and dozens of sources. I wanted better color and brighter light to match my LED fogs better, but I didn't want to give up any output, these were the only game in town. Now there are a couple competitors with a similar product. https://www.theretrofitsource.com/bu...66440-cbi.html Thanks for your help. FYI: There are many blinding factory lights out there right now. The GM pickups and even the New Corollas and others. |
Can't speak to the GM trucks, but new Corollas have LED lights, not HID lights. Entirely different technology. I can't say I routinely see any cars who's lights I think are blinding.
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
(Post 9979949)
Can't speak to the GM trucks, but new Corollas have LED lights, not HID lights. Entirely different technology. I can't say I routinely see any cars who's lights I think are blinding.
Again, thanks for your opinion. I beginning to think that no light would be brighter unless its higher voltage and watts. I appreciate it. |
Can someone tell me how to change the dash indicator from avg mph, back to the blue bar that shows fuel economy as you drive? Somehow its on avg mph now.
And also is there a miles to empty in the gas tank readout that I can see? I cant find anything or place that tells me how many miles in fuel I have left. |
The DISP button on the right side of the steering wheel will change what is displayed on the dash screen. Push it multiple times and it will cycle thru several parameters like the 'blue bar' current fuel economy, mpg after refueling, avg speed, tire pressure... etc.
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Originally Posted by GES
(Post 9983165)
The DISP button on the right side of the steering wheel will change what is displayed on the dash screen. Push it multiple times and it will cycle thru several parameters like the 'blue bar' current fuel economy, mpg after refueling, avg speed, tire pressure... etc.
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Now next Dumb question. And I have searched.
I have a iphone 6s. I also use a Bluetooth Headset. I looked in all the displays. Is there a way the tell the Lexus Car Bluetooth NOT To Automatically Connect to the phone when I get in the car? The iphone does not have a setting for a single Bluetooth device that I can find? |
I believe you need to go into the Bluetooth setup in your car settings, and remove your phone. As long as it is paired, I think it will try to connect. It sounds like the phone finds the car before it sees the headset, but I don't think there is any way to control that behavior from the perspective of the phone. Let us know if you find another solution.
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Originally Posted by jgscott
(Post 9983840)
Now next Dumb question. And I have searched.
I have a iphone 6s. I also use a Bluetooth Headset. I looked in all the displays. Is there a way the tell the Lexus Car Bluetooth NOT To Automatically Connect to the phone when I get in the car? The iphone does not have a setting for a single Bluetooth device that I can find? |
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