Thoughts from a Very Satisfied 2007 Owner
I have been an active reader of the Forum and read with interest the problems related to the 2007 model: transmission slippage, cold weather engine noise, dash board rattles, wind noise, etc. I, fortunately, experienced none of these. Numerous Forum posts relate to “what octane fuel to you use?” Answers were varied, with a few owners saying, “If you can afford a luxury car, you can afford the premium fuel”. I have 67,000 miles on my 2007, all on 87 octane; and get around 33 mpg on the highway at 65-70 mph. I call that outstanding. Maybe my engine is producing a few less horsepower, but there’s plenty there for what I need. And, by the way, I could afford the premium fuel.
A continuing Forum remark is, “The ES is just an expensive Camry”, i.e. a foolish waste of money; I don’t think so. But if that is what you believe, then don’t purchase a Lexus and complain about those who do; buy a Camry, and go on the Camry Forum to announce what a wise decision you made. Another complaint is the ES isn’t sporty like a BMW. If I want “sporty”, I’d pick another model in the Lexus line or buy a sporty BMW. The elegant, quiet comfort of the ES is just what I enjoy.
Now in conclusion, I am getting a serious case of “new car itch”. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my 2007, but I’ve got the “itch”. I’m sure I’m not the only person that has been affected by the “itch”. The cure is easy; in a few months I will be the proud owner of a 2013 ES 350. And the pleasure of my 2007 will live on in the hands of some future owner. I don’t need to hear the warnings not to buy a car in the first year of a revision, as in 2007. The engine and power train will be unchanged from the ES of recent years, and the Camry naysayers will have to change their tune; maybe they will use the word Avalon. Thank you for your understanding.
I loved my 2007, as well. While I did have a few issues associated with first-year production, they were issues that were easily remedied. I loved my 2007 so much, I purchased the highly refined 2012 model after seeing the early pics of the 2013, and haven't looked back. Now, my 2012 is the best car I've ever owned and I expect that trend to continue with my next Lexus purchase.
I too am interested in the 13' ES, as far as issues go with new model lines I am ok taking the risk because I know that Lexus will take care of me.
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I really like these cars, and for the money they are SO much car. This is my second one, and before that my Dad drove LS's, he had a 98 and a 2004, both with the air suspensions. So, my introduction to Lexus was with the LS, and my plan was in 2003 to get a 2000 CPO LS, and when I got my 2010 I again really considered a 2006 LS or 2007 LS CPO. Having never bought a used car though and not really being thrilled at the prospect, wanting to lease and after really exhaustively driving them back and forth I decided that the ES really is about 75% as much car as the LS, for half the money. People think my ES is a far more expensive car than it is all the time...
My lease is up next year, and I've been driving some things lately, I drove an A6, 535, E350, and a new GS. Even when getting out of vehicles $20-25,000 more, the ES still looks great, rides great, its so refined...its really remarkable. You really do get a mid-class car for an entry-class price with these cars.
I'm sure I'll do the dance again, think about spending more, think about getting a 2010 LS CPO...and wind up in a 2013 ES again...
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I really like these cars, and for the money they are SO much car. This is my second one, and before that my Dad drove LS's, he had a 98 and a 2004, both with the air suspensions. So, my introduction to Lexus was with the LS, and my plan was in 2003 to get a 2000 CPO LS, and when I got my 2010 I again really considered a 2006 LS or 2007 LS CPO. Having never bought a used car though and not really being thrilled at the prospect, wanting to lease and after really exhaustively driving them back and forth I decided that the ES really is about 75% as much car as the LS, for half the money. People think my ES is a far more expensive car than it is all the time...
My lease is up next year, and I've been driving some things lately, I drove an A6, 535, E350, and a new GS. Even when getting out of vehicles $20-25,000 more, the ES still looks great, rides great, its so refined...its really remarkable. You really do get a mid-class car for an entry-class price with these cars.
I'm sure I'll do the dance again, think about spending more, think about getting a 2010 LS CPO...and wind up in a 2013 ES again...
I have been an active reader of the Forum and read with interest the problems related to the 2007 model: transmission slippage, cold weather engine noise, dash board rattles, wind noise, etc. I, fortunately, experienced none of these. Numerous Forum posts relate to “what octane fuel to you use?” Answers were varied, with a few owners saying, “If you can afford a luxury car, you can afford the premium fuel”. I have 67,000 miles on my 2007, all on 87 octane; and get around 33 mpg on the highway at 65-70 mph. I call that outstanding. Maybe my engine is producing a few less horsepower, but there’s plenty there for what I need. And, by the way, I could afford the premium fuel.
A continuing Forum remark is, “The ES is just an expensive Camry”, i.e. a foolish waste of money; I don’t think so. But if that is what you believe, then don’t purchase a Lexus and complain about those who do; buy a Camry, and go on the Camry Forum to announce what a wise decision you made. Another complaint is the ES isn’t sporty like a BMW. If I want “sporty”, I’d pick another model in the Lexus line or buy a sporty BMW. The elegant, quiet comfort of the ES is just what I enjoy.
Now in conclusion, I am getting a serious case of “new car itch”. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my 2007, but I’ve got the “itch”. I’m sure I’m not the only person that has been affected by the “itch”. The cure is easy; in a few months I will be the proud owner of a 2013 ES 350. And the pleasure of my 2007 will live on in the hands of some future owner. I don’t need to hear the warnings not to buy a car in the first year of a revision, as in 2007. The engine and power train will be unchanged from the ES of recent years, and the Camry naysayers will have to change their tune; maybe they will use the word Avalon. Thank you for your understanding.
I have been an active reader of the Forum and read with interest the problems related to the 2007 model: transmission slippage, cold weather engine noise, dash board rattles, wind noise, etc. I, fortunately, experienced none of these. Numerous Forum posts relate to “what octane fuel to you use?” Answers were varied, with a few owners saying, “If you can afford a luxury car, you can afford the premium fuel”. I have 67,000 miles on my 2007, all on 87 octane; and get around 33 mpg on the highway at 65-70 mph. I call that outstanding. Maybe my engine is producing a few less horsepower, but there’s plenty there for what I need. And, by the way, I could afford the premium fuel.
A continuing Forum remark is, “The ES is just an expensive Camry”, i.e. a foolish waste of money; I don’t think so. But if that is what you believe, then don’t purchase a Lexus and complain about those who do; buy a Camry, and go on the Camry Forum to announce what a wise decision you made. Another complaint is the ES isn’t sporty like a BMW. If I want “sporty”, I’d pick another model in the Lexus line or buy a sporty BMW. The elegant, quiet comfort of the ES is just what I enjoy.
Now in conclusion, I am getting a serious case of “new car itch”. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my 2007, but I’ve got the “itch”. I’m sure I’m not the only person that has been affected by the “itch”. The cure is easy; in a few months I will be the proud owner of a 2013 ES 350. And the pleasure of my 2007 will live on in the hands of some future owner. I don’t need to hear the warnings not to buy a car in the first year of a revision, as in 2007. The engine and power train will be unchanged from the ES of recent years, and the Camry naysayers will have to change their tune; maybe they will use the word Avalon. Thank you for your understanding.
Last edited by retired; Jul 12, 2012 at 06:17 PM. Reason: add info
I too am interested in the 13' ES, as far as issues go with new model lines I am ok taking the risk because I know that Lexus will take care of me.
The Camry is still a competently designed and built car, and drives well, but it's...well...boring. And Toyota needs to get its act together and stop making the interior feel like a Kia before they lose their market share.
The ES is just a nicer car in every way. High quality interior, excellent fit and finish, better looking IMO, and is actually fun to drive.
Last edited by RalAegidius; Jul 12, 2012 at 09:55 PM. Reason: I spell gooderly
I have been an active reader of the Forum and read with interest the problems related to the 2007 model: transmission slippage, cold weather engine noise, dash board rattles, wind noise, etc. I, fortunately, experienced none of these. Numerous Forum posts relate to “what octane fuel to you use?” Answers were varied, with a few owners saying, “If you can afford a luxury car, you can afford the premium fuel”. I have 67,000 miles on my 2007, all on 87 octane; and get around 33 mpg on the highway at 65-70 mph. I call that outstanding. Maybe my engine is producing a few less horsepower, but there’s plenty there for what I need. And, by the way, I could afford the premium fuel.
A continuing Forum remark is, “The ES is just an expensive Camry”, i.e. a foolish waste of money; I don’t think so. But if that is what you believe, then don’t purchase a Lexus and complain about those who do; buy a Camry, and go on the Camry Forum to announce what a wise decision you made. Another complaint is the ES isn’t sporty like a BMW. If I want “sporty”, I’d pick another model in the Lexus line or buy a sporty BMW. The elegant, quiet comfort of the ES is just what I enjoy.
Now in conclusion, I am getting a serious case of “new car itch”. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my 2007, but I’ve got the “itch”. I’m sure I’m not the only person that has been affected by the “itch”. The cure is easy; in a few months I will be the proud owner of a 2013 ES 350. And the pleasure of my 2007 will live on in the hands of some future owner. I don’t need to hear the warnings not to buy a car in the first year of a revision, as in 2007. The engine and power train will be unchanged from the ES of recent years, and the Camry naysayers will have to change their tune; maybe they will use the word Avalon. Thank you for your understanding.

Mine was one of the first to arrive at my dealership back in may of '06. Still love driving it. I had 10 years of trouble free driving on my ES300. Undecided on whether I will go for it with this car, but I WILL let you guys tell us about the new ES.
I just hit 50k miles and completed a 750 mi trip at 29.7 mpg on 89 octane. I'd considered a 2012 compared to a `13 because I'm just not a fan of the new front facia.
Guess I've just about convinced myself to keep this one for awhile longer . .

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