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Old Feb 19, 2018 | 01:40 PM
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My 2005 ES330 has HID lights installed, however, the other lights are "old school" yellow.
Could someone help me with what types of bulbs I need to buy so they match my HID lights in color, please?
Also, I've read somewhere that some LEDs might cause dashboard showing something's wrong. Has anyone had similar issues?
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 09:52 AM
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There shouldn't be any issues running a 5000 LED setup in the highs and the fogs. Personally, I wouldn't use HID's in the high beams. Use LED. HID ballasts have to warm up and take anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes to reach optimal light output.

But, for what its worth, there is a reason they left Halogen bulbs in the high beams. 3500k-4000k (the color temp of regular headlights) gives off the brightest light while consuming the least amount of energy.

In my fogs I have 3000k Yellow HID's, in my highs I have standard bulbs and in my lows I have 6000K HIDs. It's all preference really.
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 01:07 PM
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So I've started with the backup lights and failed. I purchased these
Amazon Amazon
(SYLVANIA 921 ZEVO LED)
After it was installed, I wasn't able to push the socket through so I could lock it, but this is not all. After I tried to pull it out, the LED couldn't go out anymore, it seemed as if it was too big (not sure how it went in so easy).
Anyhow, it dropped inside the plastic mask. Is there a way to take it out? It is not visible from the outside so it is somewhere in between.

Also, I found out which type of low beam I use. It is Sylvania D2S HID Xenarc.

Few more questions:
1. What should be high beam light bulb that should go with my low lights? I can only see SYLVANIA 9005 zXe Halogen which is advertised as HID attitude. Is there HID version for high beam lights?
2. For the backup light I went with SYLVANIA 921 ZEVO LED Mini Bulb, but these obviously are no good fit, maybe SYLVANIA 921 SYL LED Mini Bulb?
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 01:45 PM
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For all the bulb types your car takes look here

If you want to go LED on the high beams these are using the latest Cree XHP50 LEDs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/232563371285

For 921 aka T10 bulbs which location(s) are you replacing? To get the bulb out try a neodymium magnet on a string or a vacuum cleaner might work.
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
For all the bulb types your car takes look here

If you want to go LED on the high beams these are using the latest Cree XHP50 LEDs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/232563371285

For 921 aka T10 bulbs which location(s) are you replacing? To get the bulb out try a neodymium magnet on a string or a vacuum cleaner might work.
Thanks a lot!!!
Could the above LEDs be used as both low beam and high beam?
It is this one. It fell somewhere in between i.e. I cannot see it from the outside.


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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 02:17 PM
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If you want extremely bright high beams check these out, but they are fairly expensive.
https://headlightrevolution.com/gtr-...ulbs-9005-hb3/

Your low beams use D2S xenon bulbs you could try something like a Philips D2S bulb but you won't get much better light output unless your current bulbs have been used a lot and are near the end of their life. If you want much brighter low beams you'll have to replace the bulbs and ballasts.

The section you circled that's the signal light? Is that a dual mode bulb meaning it has a low/high brightness function?
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
If you want extremely bright high beams check these out, but they are fairly expensive.
https://headlightrevolution.com/gtr-...ulbs-9005-hb3/

Your low beams use D2S xenon bulbs you could try something like a Philips D2S bulb but you won't get much better light output unless your current bulbs have been used a lot and are near the end of their life. If you want much brighter low beams you'll have to replace the bulbs and ballasts.

The section you circled that's the signal light? Is that a dual mode bulb meaning it has a low/high brightness function?
Well, I am not so much into extreme brightness.
My D2S is rated 6000K so I am trying to get similar color temperature, and brightness is of less importance.
This is what my lights look like.
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 03:01 PM
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Ah that's a marker light. Billions of choices out there how bright do you want it? These duplicate the stock 194 incandescent almost perfectly.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162598610195
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173028342732

If you want silly bright get this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/191544333665

These will be brighter than stock but not silly bright
https://www.ebay.com/itm/231778883766

These are good signal light bulbs
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192246212089

If you want to blind people get these signal lights
https://www.ebay.com/itm/232635266920

LED flasher
https://www.ebay.com/itm/400507809650

None of the above have "CANBUS" feature meaning if the car looks for a certain load you'll get the lamp out warning in the dash. Don't buy LEDs with CANBUS feature they use a built in resistor and get extremely hot. I'd simply remove the lamp out bulb in the cluster.

I've bought and used many auto LEDs, in general they are much less reliable than the stock bulbs. Doesn't matter what vendor/brand.
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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Thanks for all the effort in the above posts.
I figured it out. I was trying to install 921 instead of 194 so I went to store and purchased Sylvania Zevo type 194.
This is what it looks now:

And this is before:


So what's left are the high beam lights. BTW I see the kit comes with some kind of box. Do I let it hang?
I know have two 921 LED bulbs somewhere in the passenger side headlight housing. Is it hard to remove the whole headlight? I would try to take them out of there.
I'll probably keep the signal light bulb as it is as I only wanted to match the low beam lights color.
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 04:58 PM
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Have not removed a headlight housing on your car so don't know what's involved. You're supposed to have amber in the corner light by law but doubt anyone will notice or care. The driver boxes people zip tie them to something not a big deal. Some headlight LED bulbs are self contained no external driver box.

There are so many choices of LED bulbs it boggles the mind, if you're not sure it is best to buy from places like Xenon Depot, Diode Dynamics places that are in the U.S. and support their products.

Does your car have daytime running lights and if so are they half brightness using the high beam bulbs? If so many LED bulbs will not work properly they will flicker.
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexus2000
Have not removed a headlight housing on your car so don't know what's involved. You're supposed to have amber in the corner light by law but doubt anyone will notice or care. The driver boxes people zip tie them to something not a big deal. Some headlight LED bulbs are self contained no external driver box.

There are so many choices of LED bulbs it boggles the mind, if you're not sure it is best to buy from places like Xenon Depot, Diode Dynamics places that are in the U.S. and support their products.

Does your car have daytime running lights and if so are they half brightness using the high beam bulbs? If so many LED bulbs will not work properly they will flicker.
I wasn't aware of the law. If that's the case I'll put the regular ones back.
On the other hand, there is an amber light on the side so maybe that meets the requirement and I am good.

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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 05:26 PM
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Yep you have the amber light on the side so I think you're good.
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 06:49 PM
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I haven't had good luck with cheapo LED headlight bulbs. I did a little review on it, they produce a lot of glare just like HID's.

The ones I got started flickering in the cold weather after 3 months of use:


If you have daytime running lights you'll have trouble with LED high beam lights because they run at half of the voltage. If it isn't required in your area you can turn off DRL in Toyota techstream:


The front of the ES330 isn't connected to any bulb sensors. The rear brake lights are, however. For that, you'd need a load resistor to get rid of the error message. You need a red LED bulb for red lenses, a white LED will show pink. Please also note that the bulb points upward in the ES330's tail light housing, which isn't good if you have a directional LED bulb. I did a review on tail light bulbs here:


The ultimate upgrade would be to have switchback front turn signal / DRL LED setup, similar to this Camry:
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Old Feb 20, 2018 | 07:25 PM
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LED tech has advanced a fair bit in the last 3 years.
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