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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 04:54 AM
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I have a 2007 ES350 that just rolled over 90,000 miles and I am getting ready to replace the water pump. My question is should I also replace the hoses while I am doing all of that? And if so, how many of them are there on this engine?
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 03:50 PM
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Why are you planning to replace the water pump? Noise? Leaking? Wobbly drive pulley? As far as hoses go, if none of them are bulging/swelling with the engine hot then I wouldn't automatically replace any of them because of your mileage or the age of the car at this point. The "cold" hoses will probably never need replacing, and the "hot" hoses I wouldn't get my knickers twisted for another three or four year at least.
About thirty years ago the quality of automotive hoses really seemed to improve and I think it was about thirty years ago that I replaced my last hose, come to think of it.

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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 04:35 PM
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I hope you're changing the timing belt while the front of the engine is off.
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 05:49 PM
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There is no timing belt......it would be a good time to check/replace the accessory drive serpentine belt if it hasn't been recently replaced, I suppose. Replacing the coolant pump on these cars is not for someone who is not mechanically inclined, or who does not have the shop manual or equivalent info. I believe this link for the cooling system inspection, which includes among other items the replacement procedure for the water pump. http://www.doc88.com/p-316746265729.html (It does take awhile to load the full document).
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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There is no timing belt......it would be a good time to check/replace the accessory drive serpentine belt if it hasn't been recently replaced, I suppose. Replacing the coolant pump on these cars is not for someone who is not mechanically inclined, or who does not have the shop manual or equivalent info. I believe this link for the cooling system inspection, which includes among other items the replacement procedure for the water pump. http://www.doc88.com/p-316746265729.html (It does take awhile to load the full document).
Correct. The 3.5 V6 used in the 2007-2014 ES350 has a chain.
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Dam, that's good news! I feel richer now.
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 06:34 PM
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Thanks oldgrump! The water pump is not leaking, or making any noise. I guess it is just my OCD tendencies kicking in and me trying to apply some preventative maintenance. I will replace the serpentine belt while we are in there and I thought that for just a few more $$'s maybe I should replace the hoses. Which ones are the "cold" hoses? Are they the 3 other hoses that don't connect directly to the radiator?
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Old Mar 12, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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The "hot" hoses would be the engine out/return hose (the upper, large dia. hose) to the radiator, and the engine to heater core hose. Some people also consider the heater return hose to be a "hot" hose as well. The heater hoses are about 1" or so in diameter. There are two small diameter hoses (short) that are the throttle body supply and return hoses that I doubt will ever be an issue (the Parts Catalogue calls these "bypass" hoses). The large diameter hose from the radiator to the engine is a "cold" hose and in fifty years I've yet to replace one. Whatever hoses that you remove or replace I would replace the factory spring clamps with screw band clamps. Do not apply a large load to the plastic connectors on the radiator, or to the heater connectors. This may be of some help: http://lexus.sewellparts.com/oem-cat...S350-2007.html

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