TPMS Relearning tool
Well, my 2007 ES350 finally seems to have a TPMS sensor that has finally died. Getting the rapid flashing flat tire light and then solid tire light. Considering the car is 17 years old, I think the TPMS sensor has lasted a pretty good amount of time. Anyway; I have no problem replacing the 4 (5 if you include the spare) sensors. I have had luck with aftermarket TPMS sensors in my other vehicles, but this will be the first time in the lexus. I might as well do my 2008 toyota Rav 4 also, considering those sensors are original and haven't died yet (but probably will).
Anyway, my question is about "Relearning" to the ECU. My other vehicles (Non-Toyota/Lexus) all had a "Relearning Mode" for sensors. Simply replace the sensors; put the vehicle in "Relearn Mode" from the console; and use a $10 activation tool bought on amazon. Works like a champ. Unfortunately, I do not believe that toyota/lexus 2007-2008 vehicles have a "Relearn Mode". I believe the only way is to use a scan/relearn tool to read the new sensors, then connect this tool to the OBD2 connector and reprogram the ECU. So, my question is if anyone has any suggestions on a decent tool. I looked at the Autel MaxiTPMS series, but they are expensive, and supposedly they only work with Autel TPMS sensors. That's a lot of money ($250-$300) to spend for 2 vehicles and probably won't ever use again. Especially when I can get aftermarket sensors 5 for $69. (I've had good luck with certain aftermarket sensors). My Chevy Silverado has been working great for a number of years.
Anyway; does anyone know of a decent relearn tool; or if there's a way around it. For $300, I'll LIVE with the stupid tire pressure light on all the time. But changing the tire sensors are really easy. I have done it many times on various vehicles. But my lexus and rav4 are the only ones that don't seem to have a "Relearn Mode".
Thanks
Mike
Anyway, my question is about "Relearning" to the ECU. My other vehicles (Non-Toyota/Lexus) all had a "Relearning Mode" for sensors. Simply replace the sensors; put the vehicle in "Relearn Mode" from the console; and use a $10 activation tool bought on amazon. Works like a champ. Unfortunately, I do not believe that toyota/lexus 2007-2008 vehicles have a "Relearn Mode". I believe the only way is to use a scan/relearn tool to read the new sensors, then connect this tool to the OBD2 connector and reprogram the ECU. So, my question is if anyone has any suggestions on a decent tool. I looked at the Autel MaxiTPMS series, but they are expensive, and supposedly they only work with Autel TPMS sensors. That's a lot of money ($250-$300) to spend for 2 vehicles and probably won't ever use again. Especially when I can get aftermarket sensors 5 for $69. (I've had good luck with certain aftermarket sensors). My Chevy Silverado has been working great for a number of years.
Anyway; does anyone know of a decent relearn tool; or if there's a way around it. For $300, I'll LIVE with the stupid tire pressure light on all the time. But changing the tire sensors are really easy. I have done it many times on various vehicles. But my lexus and rav4 are the only ones that don't seem to have a "Relearn Mode".
Thanks
Mike
Well, I haven't gotten any replies, but did see a lot of views on my post. I decided to go ahead and purchase the "XTOOL TP150" scan/program/relearn tool. I've read a lot of good reviews on it. And for about half the price of the Autel 508wf it's worth a shot. $130 on amazon after coupon discounts. Like all others, it can only program sensors from it's own brand, but it can read, diagnose, and relearn to the ecu any tpms sensor.
Replacing the sensor is a simple job, if you have the means of breaking the bead on the tire. I used a lot of methods I found on youtube and the internet. I did wind up having time on my hand and built a bead breaker by building a stand and attaching an old scissor jack to it that I no longer use as a jack. Works great. So, I should receive the TP150 tomorrow. I'll experiment with it a bit before replacing the sensors.
On a side note.... I can't believe it's only NOW that I'm getting the sensor failure light. This is a 2007 lexus es350 and I've owned the car almost the entire 17 years. Having the sensors (all 5) last that long is amazing. But I also have a 2008 rav4 (which I've owned the entire 16 years) and it too has all 5 sensors still working fine. I know they are because I have seen the rare occasion when the light would come on because of low air pressure. (e.g. nail in the tire). So, I guess 16-17 years for the original OEM sensor is pretty good.
I'll write back when I've had a chance to put the TP150 through it's paces.
Mike
Replacing the sensor is a simple job, if you have the means of breaking the bead on the tire. I used a lot of methods I found on youtube and the internet. I did wind up having time on my hand and built a bead breaker by building a stand and attaching an old scissor jack to it that I no longer use as a jack. Works great. So, I should receive the TP150 tomorrow. I'll experiment with it a bit before replacing the sensors.
On a side note.... I can't believe it's only NOW that I'm getting the sensor failure light. This is a 2007 lexus es350 and I've owned the car almost the entire 17 years. Having the sensors (all 5) last that long is amazing. But I also have a 2008 rav4 (which I've owned the entire 16 years) and it too has all 5 sensors still working fine. I know they are because I have seen the rare occasion when the light would come on because of low air pressure. (e.g. nail in the tire). So, I guess 16-17 years for the original OEM sensor is pretty good.
I'll write back when I've had a chance to put the TP150 through it's paces.
Mike
I went though this recently and replaced the sensors myself as well. I was able to take my car to Costco afterwards and they reprogrammed all the sensors for free, (but I'm sure any tire shop would do it cheap or free also).
I bought one of those tools from amazon but couldn't get it to relearn. It was for one sensor that pep boys replaced.
I went ahead and replaced all 5 and had a shop reprogram for me. Came out to $160. They struggled a bit to get it to program. They said if you are near any frequency like radio towers, it will interfere with the programming. Since they were near a tower, they went to a underground garage to program my new sensors. It was a struggle. They had a shop level program tool and still had some issues
I went ahead and replaced all 5 and had a shop reprogram for me. Came out to $160. They struggled a bit to get it to program. They said if you are near any frequency like radio towers, it will interfere with the programming. Since they were near a tower, they went to a underground garage to program my new sensors. It was a struggle. They had a shop level program tool and still had some issues
Well, I did buy the Xtool TP150 and the tool actually worked out quite well. I did have an issue trying to get the ECU in the car to "RELEARN", but I realized you really have to make sure the TP150 is updated to the newest Firmware and software. Once I did that, it relearned to the ECU fast.
My only gripe, not with the tool, is that you really need to do your research on the sensors you are going to buy. I went "Amazon Cheap". They worked, but the quality control on the sensors on some companies isn't as good as others. I replaced 3 of the sensors, all have good batteries, and 2 of them the TP150 read them quite quickly. But one of the sensors took a lot of patience in order for the TP150 to read it. But once it did, the relearn was simple.
I cleared the codes, purposely pressed the "RESET" button on the lexus to make sure that even though the TP150 told the ECU everything, I wanted the ECU to also see for itself. It's been 2 days now and the TPMS idiot light is still off, which is good. Tires are holding air good. The TP150 is definitely a good tool. Just remember to make sure it has the most up to date firmware/software (Use the USB update instead of the WIFI update). Also make sure you get some reputable sensors. Go to RockAuto INSTEAD of amazon. You can get a schrader TPMS sensor for $23. You can get a DENZO for $37. It's tempting to get the Amazon 4-pack of sensors for $30, and with patience you will be OK. But for the other 2 sensors I will eventually replace, I will buy the better quality brand.
Mike
My only gripe, not with the tool, is that you really need to do your research on the sensors you are going to buy. I went "Amazon Cheap". They worked, but the quality control on the sensors on some companies isn't as good as others. I replaced 3 of the sensors, all have good batteries, and 2 of them the TP150 read them quite quickly. But one of the sensors took a lot of patience in order for the TP150 to read it. But once it did, the relearn was simple.
I cleared the codes, purposely pressed the "RESET" button on the lexus to make sure that even though the TP150 told the ECU everything, I wanted the ECU to also see for itself. It's been 2 days now and the TPMS idiot light is still off, which is good. Tires are holding air good. The TP150 is definitely a good tool. Just remember to make sure it has the most up to date firmware/software (Use the USB update instead of the WIFI update). Also make sure you get some reputable sensors. Go to RockAuto INSTEAD of amazon. You can get a schrader TPMS sensor for $23. You can get a DENZO for $37. It's tempting to get the Amazon 4-pack of sensors for $30, and with patience you will be OK. But for the other 2 sensors I will eventually replace, I will buy the better quality brand.
Mike
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