The perfect engine for today’s small sedans and crossovers?
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Nope, not without forced induction or some type of electric assist powertrain, or a combo of the two. Cannot be done reliably with an NA 1.8L. I bet you @Striker223 will back me on this
I think you misunderstood my previous statement. I was not saying that one needs to achieve 300 HP without forced induction or electric-assist. I was saying two things.....First, that one does not need 300 HP in the average small sedan or crossover unless doing a serious rally machine like a Subaru WRX/STi or Mitsubishi Evo. Second, even if 300 HP could not be achieved that way, still, with today's engineering, a lot better than the 129/157 figures of that 1.8L V6 of 30 years ago could be achieved on the same block today.
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I think you misunderstood my previous statement. I was not saying that one needs to achieve 300 HP without forced induction or electric-assist. I was saying two things.....First, that one doers not need 300 HP in the average small sedan or crossover unless doing a serious rally machine like a Subaru WRX/STi or Mitsubishi Evo. Second, even if 300 HP could not be achieved that way, still, with today's engineering, a lot better than the 129/157 figures of that 1.8L V6 of 30 years ago could be achieved on the same block today.
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Maybe Mazda planned on forced induction but never went through with it. Otherwise why make such a tiny displacement V6, 2.5 liter version of the same engine for example weighs the same, costs the same and makes way more power.
Mazda used to make a great turbo 4-cylinder, good hp and gobs of torque.
edit - guess I should add context, this car
https://blog.consumerguide.com/revie...626-turbo-4ws/
No, I fully understood your thread and the purpose. Let's forget about HP numbers for a minute. The whole point a lot of us are making is it's not the right the engine. Sure it's smoother than say a 1.8L 4 cylinder, but you can achieve the same HP numbers with a lightly turbocharged 4 cylinder at a cheaper cost to the consumer. If you're thread is a "it would be nice to use this engine", than that's totally different, but realistically, this engine is not the right fit
edit - guess I should add context, this car
https://blog.consumerguide.com/revie...626-turbo-4ws/
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I have personally seen two crashes occur from that exact situation
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When I say "little burst of speed",I'm not talking about a burst of speed to 100 MPH, I'm talking about accelerating past a point of congestion to merge ahead of it.
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