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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
No replacement for displacement
I agree to the extent that given a choice, I would rather have a larger N/A engine than an smaller turbo one, but, under a number of conditions, a turbo IS an adequate replacement for displacement. That old adage you posted is somewhat out of date.
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
a turbo IS an adequate replacement for displacement. That old adage you posted is somewhat out of date.
4 cylinders will never replace the smoothness and refinement of a V6...

Originally Posted by mmarshall
That old adage you posted is somewhat out of date.
Will never be out of date. Tested against time
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
No replacement for displacement Those new small engines are not in any way aspirational. Can’t believe buyers are willing to accept them
Agreed. Not to veer this OT.

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I agree to the extent that given a choice, I would rather have a larger N/A engine than an smaller turbo one, but, under a number of conditions, a turbo IS an adequate replacement for displacement. That old adage you posted is somewhat out of date.
On paper, sure. IRL I personally don't think so. I just can't stress how sharp these Mercedes crossovers are I see, they look stunning....but most of them are 300 models with the 2.0t. No thanks.

I just can't believe Honda completely neutered this Accord. I'm one of those people who 30mpg is great for, it doesn't have to be 45 or 50. It just sucks they give consumers no choice.
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Saw the new Accord today and its truly hideous car. Honda purposely designed it so nobody would buy it and they can justify getting rid of sedans.


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No different than the prior gen… the Accord just doesn’t look great in LX trim. Virtually all automakers peg the optimum styling for the top trim with larger wheels and lower trims just look off.
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 11:52 AM
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The previous gen Accord was much better looking and more appealing, I have to agree. My barber is a car guy, he has an S8 but has an old Accord he drives as a daily, he just bought the outgoing Accord 2.0T because he figured it was his last chance to buy an enjoyable Accord, he'll keep it forever, his last one had 185,000 miles on it
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The previous gen Accord was much better looking and more appealing, I have to agree. My barber is a car guy, he has an S8 but has an old Accord he drives as a daily, he just bought the outgoing Accord 2.0T because he figured it was his last chance to buy an enjoyable Accord, he'll keep it forever, his last one had 185,000 miles on it
I would imagine that a Honda 2.0t would be one of the better downsized 4 cylinders available since 4 cylinder motors used to be their forte.

And it was almost blindingly fast, that 252hp was underrated.

I've always liked Accords but not anymore.
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I agree to the extent that given a choice, I would rather have a larger N/A engine than an smaller turbo one, but, under a number of conditions, a turbo IS an adequate replacement for displacement. That old adage you posted is somewhat out of date.
Eh, do both. A 6.0+ engine with forced induction is the clear solution
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I would imagine that a Honda 2.0t would be one of the better downsized 4 cylinders available since 4 cylinder motors used to be their forte.

And it was almost blindingly fast, that 252hp was underrated.

I've always liked Accords but not anymore.
It was not underated at all, just had aggressive gearing for 0-60 and lacked legs....still way better than this car
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Old Feb 19, 2023 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
It was not underated at all, just had aggressive gearing for 0-60 and lacked legs....still way better than this car
At least the last time it had 200hp it came from a creamy smooth V6....in 1998. That was a very nice engine.
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
At least the last time it had 200hp it came from a creamy smooth V6....in 1998. That was a very nice engine.
But inside a totally non compelling car.

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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
But inside a totally non compelling car.
Accord had a great chassis then, too, that was praised. It's always been the "driver's car" of the bunch in disguise, under all the Honda practicality.

1998 Accords were nice, the only nicer car in that group was the Maxima but that was half a step up in the food chain.
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Accord had a great chassis then, too, that was praised. It's always been the "driver's car" of the bunch in disguise, under all the Honda practicality.

1998 Accords were nice, the only nicer car in that group was the Maxima but that was half a step up in the food chain.
They were ugly Inside and out IMO.
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
They were ugly Inside and out IMO.
Lol so is this new one, at least outside. I like the last one.

The old '98 V6 Accord coupes were sharp IMO. The rest were plain.
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Lol so is this new one, at least outside. I like the last one.

The old '98 V6 Accord coupes were sharp IMO. The rest were plain.
I wouldn't call the new one ugly, its just kind of plain.
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Old Feb 20, 2023 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
The old '98 V6 Accord coupes were sharp IMO. The rest were plain.
Aht aht. Let's stay on topic lmao
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