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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 06:27 AM
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After almost half a century the beloved compact is no more



Ford announced this week that its killing off the Fiesta compact for good. If this sounds like déjà vu, you're probably thinking of when the Blue Oval overlords smote the entry-level model in 2018. Or perhaps it was when they pulled the plug on the hot hatch Fiesta ST, the only Fiesta to carry on in 2019. It's understandable, but both of those culls were for the North American market. This time around, Ford's putting an end to the Fiesta in Europe, and that means it'll be gone for good.

Ford said that the Fiesta, along with the S-Max and Galaxy people movers, are getting the axe so they can focus (no pun intended, but since we're on the topic that model's going away in 2025) resources on electrification. The company has pledged to make all their passenger cars in Europe fully electric by 2030, with the remainder of their vehicles to follow by 2035.

For many Europeans, the end of the Fiesta is a significant milestone. When it shuffles off this motored coil next year, the nameplate will have been in production for 47 years. The Fiesta debuted in 1976, a response to the OPEC oil crisis and fuel efficient competition such as the VW Polo, Honda Civic and Renault 5. The body was penned by Tom Tjaarda at Ghia and evinced a clean, modern look that was simple yet crisp.

It was Ford's first front-wheel-drive global car, and was even sold in the U.S. briefly. Of course, as was the custom with light, nimble hatchbacks, performance versions soon sprung up, though those were never sold in America. While the Fiesta was originally short-lived in the U.S., it was a bona-fide hit in the rest of the world. The second-generation continued the popularity of the first, and even introduced technologies like the CVT in the 1980s, long before they became mainstream.

The U.S. didn't see the Fiesta again until the 2011 model year, when the car was on its sixth generation. During that time in the rest of the world, it had continued to top best-selling lists. The Fiesta got generally favorable reviews, but six years later Ford announced it was killing off all non-crossover cars except for the Mustang.

With that, the writing was on the wall. The Fiesta continued to sell moderately well in Europe, but even in that small car-loving market sales began to wane. Buyers began to favor the Puma compact crossover and the Fiesta's profit margins just weren't enough for Ford. One account stated that Ford made more money from licensing its brand to Lego than from building the Fiesta.

According to the BBC, Ford has sold some 20 million units worldwide over its 47-year, seven-generation lifespan. That's a pretty good run no matter how you measure it. Unfortunately for fans of small, no-nonsense cars like the Fiesta — or who must buy them out of necessity — there's no more business case and the party will soon be over.
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 08:49 AM
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The U.S. didn't see the Fiesta again until the 2011 model year, when the car was on its sixth generation. During that time in the rest of the world, it had continued to top best-selling lists. The Fiesta got generally favorable reviews,
The U.S. version of the 2011+ Fiesta got anything BUT favorable reviews. (and I test-drove one myself). Not only was it cheap, cramped (and drove like it), but it had a crap-DSG transmission that clunk-shifted, often failed, and was a source of innumerable customer complaints....eventhally leading to a class-action-suit.
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 01:31 PM
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The U.S. version of the 2011+ Fiesta got anything BUT favorable reviews. (and I test-drove one myself). Not only was it cheap, cramped (and drove like it), but it had a crap-DSG transmission that clunk-shifted, often failed, and was a source of innumerable customer complaints....eventhally leading to a class-action-suit.
The manual transmission variant was well liked from what I could tell. My brother-in-law drives a Fiesta ST with a manual.

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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 02:38 PM
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The manual transmission variant was well liked from what I could tell. My brother-in-law drives a Fiesta ST with a manual.

Agreed.....the manual is a much better choice than the troublesome DSG automatic. I did not sample the ST version (which is basically an American pocket-rocket), so I can't comment on it as much as the bread-and-butter versions. Most people these days, though, except for some enthusiasts, don't want to have to continually row their own gears, especially in heavy stop-and-go traffic.
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 02:45 PM
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The Fiesta debuted in 1976, a response to the OPEC oil crisis and fuel efficient competition such as the VW Polo, Honda Civic and Renault 5.
That makes me recall an ad in a car mag from the late 70s that I read (I can't remember exactly what mag it was, but I think Road & Track)..that compared the then-new Fiesta with the Honda Civic CVCC, which had been in production since 1973. The name of the article was "Guttersnipe vs. Sexyface"......Guttersnipe being the Civic and Fiesta being Sexyface. The article, of course, compared the strengths and weaknesses of both cars.

I could not find the article on the Internet, so I can't copy and post it, but if anyone does find it, feel free to do so.
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Agreed.....the manual is a much better choice than the troublesome DSG automatic. I did not sample the ST version (which is basically an American pocket-rocket), so I can't comment on it as much as the bread-and-butter versions. Most people these days, though, except for some enthusiasts, don't want to have to continually row their own gears, especially in heavy stop-and-go traffic.
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Old Nov 3, 2022 | 03:29 PM
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My niece has a pretty recent Fiesta. There is always something wrong with it. Sensors, battery, electrical, transmission, you name it.
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A great loss of a really well liked and loved small car. The Fiesta ST was great while we had it in the U.S., as was the Focus ST.

I wish this could just be attributed to Ford ending production to develop electric replacements for both but of course it's all due to crossovers and CUVs.

Quite annoying now that if you don't want either of those or a truck or large SUV the only car Ford still sells is the Mustang. Thank goodness for them allowing *that* shape to survive.

I'm one of those who doesn't mind at all shifting gears with a manual transmission in traffic for as long as remaining manual vehicles are still made. That's a very small price to pay for the fun of having that interface style. It doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea to be the flavor I prefer. It won't be a thing with EVs understandably but it's nice while it still lasts for a few more years.

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And that brings me back to the death of the Fiesta. It's not an "if" but a "when" that battery technology improves such that packs can be drastically smaller, lighter and more energy dense. When that becomes the case in a few years.... THEN will Ford grace us with another Fiesta-like proper low to the ground hatchback EV? Or... will the options be yet more ugly crossovers?

I do have optimism that someone will bring back the two door and four door sporty hatchback formula when battery pack technology improves significantly but it would be nice if Ford were one of those companies that does so.

Crossovers are not replacements for what they are discontinuing.
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I'm one of those who doesn't mind at all shifting gears with a manual transmission in traffic for as long as remaining manual vehicles are still made. That's a very small price to pay for the fun of having that interface style. It doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea to be the flavor I prefer. It won't be a thing with EVs understandably but it's nice while it still ,lasts for a while.
Correct. If it is a traditional three-pedal manual you want, you certainly won’t find one with an electric motor. The closest I ever saw to that was on the now-discontinued Honda CR-Z hybrid.

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Correct. If it is a traditional three-pedal manual you want, you certainly won’t find one with an electric motor. The closest I ever saw to that was on the now-discontinued Honda CR-Z hybrid.
Yes. That is only found on hobbyist or professional conversion EVs using former gas/diesel cars that already came with manual transmissions or which had a manual transmission option. OEMs, outside of show cars, aren't putting manual transmissions into EVs.

I remember those Honda CR-Z's. Gas-Electric hybrids with a 6-speed manual option. They looked good and I test drove one when they were new back in 2013. Sadly a CVT model was all they had available on the lot but I had no intention of buying it. I just wanted to get a sense of the car overall even without the manual in case I wanted to commit to ordering one.

It was decent and okay. I disliked the beam axle rear suspension though. Having not so long before owned a last generation Honda Prelude which had a four wheel double wishbone suspension and 200hp engine I frankly expected much better from the CR-Z with its inferior suspension design and far less horsepower than the old Prelude.

It desperately wanted to be a CRX successor but it wasn't quite that. Still an interesting car since it was Honda's second manual transmission gas-electric hybrid car and their first such offering intended for sporty driving.

Their first was the original Honda Insight which was far from sporty but which was also gas-electric hybrid with a 5-speed manual option. I got to drive one of those many years after they were discontinued and it was actually a very cool little car. No sporty intentions but a decent handler and a great driver oriented interior.

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Not a hybrid but since the Fiesta is now dead I'll also pour one out for the cool little known Fiesta 1.0L EcoBoost fuel miser model which came with a long geared 5-speed manual transmission. It was the opposite of the Fiesta ST but it was a very neat variant in the lineup with great fuel economy for the time. It could be had in both hatchback and sedan versions I believe.
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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 05:09 AM
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Small hatches are best served with a manual. Alternatively (and for actual real-world uhh.. utilitarian use cases) - proper hybrid.

Re: small EVs - 3rd gen Twingo:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaul...C3%89lectrique
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I never knew the Ford Fiesta was so popular and thought it went out of production back in the 90's.

Interesting and I think they need to bring back basic inexpensive transportation for peeps who need it.
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Interesting and I think they need to bring back basic inexpensive transportation for peeps who need it.
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