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Agreed - but if i had to pick a 911 to daily, then it would be a Turbo S lol If only you can get one at sticker.
Yep, that's what most people seem to say. Most people on Rennlist say the Turbo S is the ultimate "street" 911. Not hearing of too many Turbo S allocations now, let alone at sticker! Bitkahuna is right about the LC though. I had my couple of criticisms of it, but it looks and sound great. Fast enough for street use to be fun. If only they would have come out with some "F" variant of it. Even if it was just the extra cooling.
/s In all seriousness, any car is a track car if you prep it properly. Well, maybe every car except, like, one of those three-wheeler Morgans. That's just asking for a tip-over...
yea, when you see the nuremberg videos from some of the drivers and you need so many folks just driving their normal cars/bike on there which is amazing to me. I guess its the driver end of the day and how comfortable are you pushing your vespa.
/s In all seriousness, any car is a track car if you prep it properly. Well, maybe every car except, like, one of those three-wheeler Morgans. That's just asking for a tip-over...
some people daily their LC my neighbor was one them for last 2-3 years, till he picked up his m5 comp.
Originally Posted by Sodbuster1
I really wouldn't daily a LC or 911 myself. That's what you get a GS F, M5, M3, X3 M, X4 M, X5 M, Panamera, Cayenne, RS Q8, RS 6 Avant, RS 5, AMG E63 S etc for.
yea, when you see the nuremberg videos from some of the drivers and you need so many folks just driving their normal cars/bike on there which is amazing to me. I guess its the driver end of the day and how comfortable are you pushing your vespa.
The [FTFY] Nurburgring is different from tracks in the USA, you have to remember that. It's a tourist destination, and it's considered a public toll road. So, anyone with time can go there. In the states, if you want to do a track day, it often requires instruction and certainly more money.
Not to take away from your point, that in theory, I could have tracked my wife's Nissan Versa Note if I had really had the notion and desire to. Would it have been able to keep up a good pace over several laps? I highly doubt that! But, then again, no one is really dictating how fast I drive on a track except myself. It's like when the local car peeps and I do mountain runs - people have different paces they like to run. In my stock IS 350 I am not trying to have brake fade or an overheating engine, so I don't go all-out. Even though my car could probably handle that abuse better than some of the other cars that come out, I still just don't want to have any reason for something to happen as my personal policy on the matter. Even if I were in an LC 500 I'd be letting that thing cool down every few minutes.
i still don’t think of the GSF or any large sedan like a M5 as a good track car. Sure they are track capable and I’m sure they do well on the track for what they are but there are too many compromises and better cars out there for that. I look at those as great daily drivers that are great canyon carvers when you want to have fun.
They put down great times and that's what matters isn't it? Beating lotuses around tracks is an accomplishment for any 4 door.
The [FTFY] Nurburgring is different from tracks in the USA, you have to remember that. It's a tourist destination, and it's considered a public toll road. So, anyone with time can go there. In the states, if you want to do a track day, it often requires instruction and certainly more money.
Not to take away from your point, that in theory, I could have tracked my wife's Nissan Versa Note if I had really had the notion and desire to. Would it have been able to keep up a good pace over several laps? I highly doubt that! But, then again, no one is really dictating how fast I drive on a track except myself. It's like when the local car peeps and I do mountain runs - people have different paces they like to run. In my stock IS 350 I am not trying to have brake fade or an overheating engine, so I don't go all-out. Even though my car could probably handle that abuse better than some of the other cars that come out, I still just don't want to have any reason for something to happen as my personal policy on the matter. Even if I were in an LC 500 I'd be letting that thing cool down every few minutes.
Im probably abnormal then for getting brake fade as a regular occurrence on backroads.....
Im probably abnormal then for getting brake fade as a regular occurrence on backroads.....
Don't get me wrong, we will drive hard if the timing is right. But if I start to smell brake pads, that's a sign to let them cool a bit. Need to be able to stop in the event of an emergency, which very well could happen. I've only gotten to the point of smelling brakes once in the IS 350, when I was trying to keep up with a modified Mitsubishi Evo X and a mostly-stock IS F... with my stock IS 350. I don't know how much they were holding back, if at all, but it was not easy to keep up.
I can only imagine what it would've been like with an LC 500... I know it's no super coupe, but still, the V-8, the seating position... would've be a fun experience even if it's not an F car.
Don't get me wrong, we will drive hard if the timing is right. But if I start to smell brake pads, that's a sign to let them cool a bit. Need to be able to stop in the event of an emergency, which very well could happen. I've only gotten to the point of smelling brakes once in the IS 350, when I was trying to keep up with a modified Mitsubishi Evo X and a mostly-stock IS F... with my stock IS 350. I don't know how much they were holding back, if at all, but it was not easy to keep up.
I can only imagine what it would've been like with an LC 500... I know it's no super coupe, but still, the V-8, the seating position... would've be a fun experience even if it's not an F car.
The sound is amazing. That's one of the big things about it, you just keep taking it to 140+ to hear it.
I like the LC500 a lot but its not better than a 911 in any way.
Not in performance, ride comfort, usability, handling, luxury etc. It also weighs about 1,000lbs less.
911 is also one of the very few cars that you can go and track without any issues because they were engineered for that.
I concur there is no way I'm picking an LC500 over a Porsche 911. I attempted to purchase an LC500 from Lexus of Annapolis 3 years ago. I always thought Porsche cars were ugly until I owned one. Until you drive one, you don't understand. I sold my GTS for 10k more than I paid for it 6 months ago for a Bentley. I'm selling the Bentley for another one at the end of summer. The LC500 has a lot going for it.. mostly looks.
I don't care where you live in Maryland ...driving a Porsche 911 isn't normal. Maybe a Macan
Before I got my F Type, my daily drivers were a 911 coupe and a 911 convertible with the latter being my favorite. The 911 is quite simply a spectacular vehicle to own and drive. It’s the benchmark in the class for a good reason.
The 911 is a better daily because its WAY more useful. For the following reasons:
- You can option to have AWD on all trims.
I prefer RWD.
- You have a back seat to use for storage or small kids. I drove with both my kids last weekend to a car show in mine.
So does the LC
- You have a front trunk that is way bigger than the LC trunk.
True
- You can option the 18way seats which provide variety of adjustments to fit any body style.
Seats in the LC are also excellent.
- The base Carrera with standard suspension is firmer than LC.
Thats a negative
- The seating position and visibility are superior in 911.
I did not find that to be the case.
- The tech is 100x better in 911.
True, but with CarPlay I don't care.
- Put on Michelin tires if car came with Dunlops or Pirelli. They are quieter.
Still will be WAY louder than the LC.
My 911 which has Sport PASM suspension and rear wheel steer rides way better than my M3 in terms of comfort level, obviously LC will have softer ride so if that’s your main point for daily then ok.
FYI I wouldn’t track or daily either of these cars. My Tundra is my daily. This car would simply be about good weather fun.
How do you people do it? I can not have two cars so different. My buddy dailies a tundra and drives an S on weekends. I just can't. Too extreme for me.