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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
The new law holds the shops responsible for installation of any non-OEM exhaust no matter the sound.
They will be fined.
That's extreme and unfair because not all non-OEM are loud. In many California cities where they enforce noise, it's not about the exhaust, it's about the loudness of the exhaust..as long as you don't mess with anything from the CAT to the DP
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Back in the 90s - it was loud sound systems now it’s exhausts. All of this is pure BS.
Lawmakers should be focused on crime and many other important issues before passing laws to “fight” exhaust noise.

I’m much more disturbed by people cutting the lawn non-stop even on the weekends when im trying to peacefully sit in my backyard. Hearing a loud exhaust for 2sec doesn’t bother me nearly as much.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That's extreme and unfair because not all non-OEM are loud. In many California cities where they enforce noise, it's not about the exhaust, it's about the loudness of the exhaust..as long as you don't mess with anything from the CAT to the DP
I doubt the “wise” lawmakers that passed this law know anything about exhaust systems or difference between OEM and aftermarket. Its all to “tax” ppl with cars.
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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Back in the 90s - it was loud sound systems now it’s exhausts. All of this is pure BS.
Lawmakers should be focused on crime and many other important issues before passing laws to “fight” exhaust noise.

I’m much more disturbed by people cutting the lawn non-stop even on the weekends when im trying to peacefully sit in my backyard. Hearing a loud exhaust for 2sec doesn’t bother me nearly as much.
As I mentioned earlier, if the NY law is about non-OEM, than that's unfair. But nobody really cares about loud exhausts or loud sounds in the day...at least most people don't. It's about disturbing people late at night, which has become a huge problem since the pandemic. I can care less what sounds come out of someone's exhaust, unless it's 2am or 3am and I'm woken up in my sleep by loud cars driving through neighborhoods which is the trend. In the past people would find isolated areas to race and conduct sideshows, so nobody cared about loud exhaust sounds. Don't ask me how I know this...

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To me I see this issue this way...your not looking to infringe on anybody else's ears at 3am or your just a person who doesn't give a S*** about anybody but themselves because being an a-hole is your right. Loud exhausts have been around since I was kid. Cities, counties and states only began to recently crack down on them because people are driving through neighborhoods late at night disturbing normal people. Nobody really cares in the day time, although I want to laugh when I see someone with a fart can hanging off their car I just SMH. Anyway, that's all I have to say on the issue
clearly not all you had to say, but anyway i agree obnoxiously loud exhausts are not 'civil' but this law bans ALL non-OEM exhausts, which is like killing a fish with a nuclear weapon. it's extreme, and will have lots of unintended consequences. but of course lawmakers don't care about that. they'll be able to say "we're here for the people to make sure you don't have to hear loud exhausts any longer".

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I doubt the “wise” lawmakers that passed this law know anything about exhaust systems or difference between OEM and aftermarket. Its all to “tax” ppl with cars.
exactly.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
I doubt the “wise” lawmakers that passed this law know anything about exhaust systems or difference between OEM and aftermarket. Its all to “tax” ppl with cars.
I can assure you, it was pushed by voters here I can't speak for the SLEEP act. Here they give you a fix-it ticket, and you have 30 days to correct the issue. The fine only comes into play if you don't fix the issue or ignore the fix-it ticket

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clearly not all you had to say, but anyway i agree obnoxiously loud exhausts are not 'civil' but this law bans ALL non-OEM exhausts, which is like killing a fish with a nuclear weapon. it's extreme, and will have lots of unintended consequences. but of course lawmakers don't care about that. they'll be able to say "we're here for the people to make sure you don't have to hear loud exhausts any longer".



exactly.
Sorry, I just have way too big a mouth to stop. As I mentioned, that's completely unfair, banning all non-OEM is stupid. I don't agree with that. There are many great non-OEM exhaust systems on the market, I was at one time thinking of replacing my OEM with an Nvidia axle back which is similar to, but cheaper than the F-Sport exhaust on my IS350

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We are trying to get something like this passed here too. This is a major issue, and especially at night the sound from loud aftermarket exhausts really carries. The all OEM exhaust is just the easiest way to handle it, just don't allow any aftermarket exhausts at all.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That sounds complicated. Aftermarket just means it's not OEM. If I install an Nvidia exhaust on my IS350, that's an example of Aftermarket. Not all aftermarket exhausts are loud, I was just using that as a general term, meaning not the original factory installed exhaust. Nothing to do with sound, quality etc
Aftermarket usually means louder, I don't mean replacement for OE systems by that term since most don't use it that way. Replacement is usually what is used in that case, I am simply saying it shouldn't matter at all what is used hardware wise as long as it's under whatever DB goal they set.

Sorry if I didn't realize you mean aftermarket as in replacement, I'm just very used to associating aftermarket as some sort of "performance" setup
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We are trying to get something like this passed here too. This is a major issue, and especially at night the sound from loud aftermarket exhausts really carries. The all OEM exhaust is just the easiest way to handle it, just don't allow any aftermarket exhausts at all.
LIke I mentioned earlier in this thread, these laws are pushed by voters, not lawmakers making arbitrary decisions. This was the case in California cities, and here is further proof
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That's extreme and unfair because not all non-OEM are loud. In many California cities where they enforce noise, it's not about the exhaust, it's about the loudness of the exhaust..as long as you don't mess with anything from the CAT to the DP
Yeah that's why I think this is very stupid.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
We are trying to get something like this passed here too. This is a major issue, and especially at night the sound from loud aftermarket exhausts really carries. The all OEM exhaust is just the easiest way to handle it, just don't allow any aftermarket exhausts at all.
Why not just DB test it? Much cheaper for everyone involved
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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 11:57 AM
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Aftermarket usually means louder, I don't mean replacement for OE systems by that term since most don't use it that way. Replacement is usually what is used in that case, I am simply saying it shouldn't matter at all what is used hardware wise as long as it's under whatever DB goal they set.

Sorry if I didn't realize you mean aftermarket as in replacement, I'm just very used to associating aftermarket as some sort of "performance" setup
And this is the case in California cities...it's about DB's and not the exhaust itself. Sorry about the confusion. And the cops do test DB and issue a "Fix-it" ticket where they have 30 days to fix the issue with no fine involved
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
LIke I mentioned earlier in this thread, these laws are pushed by voters, not lawmakers making arbitrary decisions. This was the case in California cities, and here is further proof
Exactly, there have been petitions here and hearings at the county level, many many many residents want this.

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Why not just DB test it? Much cheaper for everyone involved
It would have to be re-tested if it was cited, this way all they have to have is an invoice that it has been returned to stock.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Exactly, there have been petitions here and hearings at the county level, many many many residents want this..
People are way too sensitive lol

What about all the Landscape companies with the lawn mowers and leaf blowers?! The amount of noise pollution they create is a million times greater than an exhaust which lasts 2seconds at most.
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