If you follow the tech press (computer/gaming hardware and tech in general) they tell you all the time they are under NDA and when it lifts so they can publish their articles and the like. They obviously can't share the info under NDA but it's common knowledge which publications and authors are under them and when they lift.

Auto reviewers tell you all the time they are under embargo with a version of NDA.
How can you know this if they are under NDA and we can't see any of it? As for sitting in the back seat filming who is doing that? Every vid I've seen people are actually paying close attention in the drivers seat ready to take over.

 

if an auto/tech reviewer breaks the NDA that company bans them from receiving devices before release. This is why they never break NDA. That's their livelihood. Few have done it in the past and that's what happened.

Every video you have seen of tesla FSD in use people are always paying attention? Wow. I knew you were a fan, didn't know it went this deep.

Guess the video of the guy in backseat, people sleeping at the wheel, reading a book are all fake or you're living under a cybertruck and not seeing these viral videos.

 

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Because they are breaking the NDA...thats the issue with having beta equipment being tested by anybody who wants to test it.

You missed the exchange where he insisted calling something "Full Self Driving" would never make anybody think the vehicle should fully drive itself. Any criticism of Tesla is met with the most insane rebuttals...you wonder if anybody can really be that blindly committed or if its an act.

 

You are referring to E Musk?

 

No, I'm referring to LeX2k.

I'm all for being a fan of something, but you have to be reasonable and you have to at least entertain the concept that something the person or entity might do might be wrong. The implementation of this technology by Tesla was wrong.

 

I totally agree. Elon M doesn’t help either..


Here below…just imagine your family is out on the road while you are work…other people on the road too. Just get to the second part. It’s just unbelievable and Elon Musk should be held partly responsible for this. As he fuels it.


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https://youtu.be/VS5zQKXHdpM

Shareholders don’t care…they want to see the progress even if people die as the stock is hyper inflated and in a bubble….I have no stake in the game so I can see through the non sense.

 

oh I saw it, read the whole thread with you and him discussing it. You said all that could be said so it made no sense in me joining in. The commitment to defending Tesla at all cost no matter how insane makes me think Tesla PR has infiltrated our forums haha.

Lex2k if you see this, not saying you or Tesla fans or the only one this committed defending a brand they are a fan of. I see some ridiculous rebuttals for defending Toyota and Lexus here too.

A video came out recently of someone testing FSD in seattle with the monorail columns in the middle of the road. The tesla saw the monorail column and sharply turned right into oncoming pedestrians entering a crosswalk. The person testing said "its not perfect but a big improvement"...what? lol. After the backlash the youtuber took the video down, they tried taking down all the copies made on social media which got copyright DMCA. I can just imagine all the videos we haven't seen of the mistakes FSD make.

Found the video someone took from their cache:
https://streamable.com/jghc8j

 

Amazing how some posters continue to call out the Tesla supporters on here, yet fail to see the equal asininity in their own fervent crusades to out these supposed blind-faith Tesla shills, and to absolutely make sure that we all know what a terrible company Tesla supposedly is…

 

There's a limit on both sides the debate. Dave and the Moderators get involved if and when things get out of hand.

 

Knock off the personal commentary please, generic or specific.

 

At the end of the day, you can’t argue with zealotry, because it itself is not rational.

I have spent plenty of time defending Tesla on here, but that doesn’t mean I can ignore what’s just common sense. Tesla is not a terrible company, it’s an incredible company but some of the choices they make are very poor.