Do the outgoing gen Tundras fishtail everywhere in the rain?

The answer is no. And I would know.

 

bets? toyota could be entering the 6 figure pickup truck club.

 

I don’t think it will get to 6 fugues. But $85K or $90K I think it will.

I will take your bet Bit…

 

New Platinums are running in the low to mid $60s. This adds the hybrid drive and the extra features of the Capstone, so I am throwing it out there that I think the Capstone will be in the low $70k range.

 

and then the dealers adds the $20K ADM.

 

LOL, right? I'm reading on the Tundra forums that there are lots of markups out there on the new ones right now. I know several dealers have already commented that they will mark up their TRD Pros substantially when they start showing up later this year.

 

so i look forward to seeing the first 6 figure tundra window sticker

 

Trucks are more prone than other vehicles to fishtail in the rain but any competent driver who keeps up on his tires should be fine. I've never had any issue driving my truck in the rain in 2wd(I just have an XLT so I don't have 4-Auto). The only time I break the rear loose is because I want to.

 

Right, I've only locked it once and it was in mud. It doesn't hurt to activate all your 4WD stuff once every 2 months or so to get the actuators going, even if it's just to drive for a few feet.

I believe you but how the hell not??? My 285hp Yukon on decent tires and more weight in the rear would fishtail like clockwork when it would rain. RWD empty bed with the 380hp 5.7??

Now that I'm thinking, obviously the Tundra has traction control.

Without that it would basically be un drivable in any slick situations is my guess. And even still, traction control sucks and is annoying.

 

My Tacoma could fairly easily break loose in the tail while in RWD mode. My Tundra just doesn't. At least not unless I am really trying. I've chalked it up to the Tundra being a much heavier vehicle.

Even in the snow I largely leave the Tundra in RWD. If I'm in a hilly area, or getting started in slush I'll use 4WD, but otherwise, in about 6-8 inches of snow, I was driving around quite easily in RWD.

 

The name is a little odd, but I like the concept of it. I agree it is seriously a nice truck, but still can't get past the grill.

Regarding the full time 4WD, it was likely designed without it for modest gains in fuel mileage, as the traction control system will curtail the fishtailing pickups are famous for. I actually enjoy the loose rear end in my 2001 Tundra, especially in the rain. However, when I have no time or patience for it, I hit the 4-wheel high button to settle things, as my truck did not come with the optional traction control system. It seems strange now to think of any vehicle being sold without it. We've come a long way!

 

‘I don’t think traction control was offered in 01.

Have you seen the front end in person? I think it looks better in person than in pictures

The outgoing/current sequoia has multi-mode 4WD. So it’s 2WD or selectable full-time 4WD or centre locked 4WD with LO. 4Runner V6 had this option in the past gen as well which included a torsen diff system. Toyota could have offered the existing multi mode. The Tundra has just the basic part time system which is just cheap on the part of Toyota, the entire segment at minimum has a auto-4WD feature.



I have to say, Toyota can sometimes be a very strange company. The cheaper grades have a different fuel door. One looks like it might be lockable.

 

Thanks for the insight Jill. I live in CA, so rarely use the 4WD feature in Tundra. Too, I have never had a vehicle with the auto 4WD system you described, so I haven't experienced its advantages. Since what I have works fine for me, I wouldn't want the added complexity of it. It's just one more thing to go wrong. However, I understand how others in colder climates would want an auto system that was instantly on when you need it, especially in spring and fall when conditions change constantly.

I was told my 2001 Tundra was available with optional traction control, but my particular truck didn't have it. It's one more reason I was anxiously awaiting the redesign, so I could get up-to-date on all the latest tech and safety features.

 

No problem. Glad I could help. It would be somewhat acceptable for Toyota to not offer auto-4wd back in 2001.

 

I think this Capstone looks as good as anything from Detroit inside and out. It's beautiful.