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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:25 AM
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Headline should say fastest production car..
I guess that is fair as its implied but not explicitly stated. For most that understand fast cars, this isn't nearly as fast as a custom built drag car that can actually get 7s quarter miles on super high octane fuel. The insane speeds are impressive for a daily driver capable car though.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:26 AM
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There is no bashing. Someone corrected the false and misleading headline.
Right, and some of us just aren't Tesla people.

That said, the acceleration they are capable of (this especially) is pure insanity. I never said otherwise.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
I guess that is fair as its implied but not explicitly stated. For most that understand fast cars, this isn't nearly as fast as a custom built drag car that can actually get 7s quarter miles on super high octane fuel. The insane speeds are impressive for a daily driver capable car though.
No doubt, it is impressive. I think a Dodge Challenger runs 9.4s Tesla will be beat. I think there are some drag cars that are under 4s to 1/4 mile
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:30 AM
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No doubt, it is impressive. I think a Dodge Challenger runs 9.4s Tesla will be beat. I think there are some drag cars that are under 4s to 1/4 mile
The fastest production Hellcat with slicks ran 9.6s so the Tesla will be faster for sure. The custom drag cars are much faster than the Tesla but those are heavily modified and can't really be driven on the street. As I said before, in 5 years, EVs will hold most of the production acceleration records.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:31 AM
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The custom drag cars are much faster than the Tesla but those are heavily modified and can't really be driven on the street. As I said before, in 5 years, EVs will hold most of the production acceleration records.
Who cares? When it happens....Good
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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Right, and in the mean time, let's run that Hellcat against a Tesla 25 different times and see what's what then, too.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
I guess that is fair as its implied but not explicitly stated. For most that understand fast cars, this isn't nearly as fast as a custom built drag car that can actually get 7s quarter miles on super high octane fuel. The insane speeds are impressive for a daily driver capable car though.
the headline was likely a little premature but is most probably accurate, as there are multiple categories for records like this and it’s almost certain as you said that Tesla is just holding off on officially revealing the information until the launch event. But the article DOES make it clear that the record in question is for production vehicles. The issue here really isn’t with the headline, it’s that some perhaps didn’t bother to read or understand the article that followed…
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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Right, and in the mean time, let's run that Hellcat against a Tesla 25 different times and see what's what then, too.
And let’s see which one of them can pull away from a Cars and Coffee meeting without the back end breaking loose and the car ploughing into the nearest ditch
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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And let’s see which one of them can pull away from a Cars and Coffee meeting without the back end breaking loose and the car ploughing into the nearest ditch
Lol. I'm never up early enough for that crap on a Saturday. But yes those wrecks are fun to watch assuming nobody gets hurt.
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Right, and in the mean time, let's run that Hellcat against a Tesla 25 different times and see what's what then, too.
Multiple runs is a limitation of the prior Model S. The newer Model 3s don't have the cooling issues so it will run consistent times in a drag race. The new Model S Plaid will probably have track mode so it won't also have the limitations too. You realize on an unprepped surface, that Hellcat on street tires won't even beat a Model 3 due to traction.

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Lol. I'm never up early enough for that crap on a Saturday. But yes those wrecks are fun to watch assuming nobody gets hurt.
haha yes, but point taken. Most EV's do see a degrade in performance if you try to do multiple max acceleration runs in short order. The Taycan seems better at this than prior Teslas, maybe the new Plaid will hold up a little better than its predecessors. We should know more soon.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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So one thing... Having just rechecked, tesla's website shows the quarter mile time for the Model S Plaid as 9.23@155. So slightly faster even than the time mentioned in the article.
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by swajames
So one thing... Having just rechecked, tesla's website shows the quarter mile time for the Model S Plaid as 9.23@155. So slightly faster even than the time mentioned in the article.
I just checked out the website too. The numbers are sensational in what they are achieving. Porsche was ahead until the new S. Will be interesting how they respond
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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Crazy thing is this is the slow Plaid version which still uses the creaky old 18650 cells.
having recently dipped my tow into the fancy flashlight pool (thread in clubhouse) i've only recently become familiar with 18650 vs (bigger) 21700 batteries.

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Old Jun 3, 2021 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
having recently dipped my tow into the fancy flashlight pool (thread in clubhouse) i've only recently become familiar with 18650 vs (bigger) 21700 batteries. i never realized 18650s are just AA size! that must mean there's THOUSANDS of them in a Tesla!
Uh, no, lol. AA size is 14500. Lithium-ion batteries use are referred to by their sizes, instead of AA and such for traditional batteries. Although Li-Ion can also be referred to with traditional labels, but they must specify Li-Ion as they are higher voltage (3.7 nominal for Li-Ion vs 1.5 nominal for other chemistries). The numbers such as 18650 are actually physical dimensions, roughly 18x65mm.

18650 and 21700 produce the same 3.7v nominal voltage, but the 21700 typically has larger capacity so it lasts longer. Even the the button/coin cell lithium batteries produce 3.7v, but obviously with much smaller capacity. For instance CR2032 lithium button cell that is used in many low draw applications such as scales, motherboards, etc is 20x3.2mm.
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