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the good news is that through software revisions, Ford can make the F-150 more efficient. As someone stated earlier, it will probably be one or two generations before towing heavy loads becomes a reality, but 50 percent of what makes an EV good is the software. Over 4 OTA updates later, and my Polestar has gotten way better, and efficiency has jumped from around 85-90 MPGe to over 100 MPGe. They also released an additional 10 miles of range by probably releasing some additional battery capacity
Software can increase motor efficiency but it can't change the amount of energy needed to pull something down the road. I'm sure the truck will become more efficient but when towing the massive increase in required energy will make the gains mild.
Outside of a specialized vehicle like the Tesla Semi I don't see EVs as making sense for towing. Not to say towing with a diesel truck is desirable, the amount of required energy and resulting pollution is horrendous.
Software can increase motor efficiency but it can't change the amount of energy needed to pull something down the road. I'm sure the truck will become more efficient but when towing the massive increase in required energy will make the gains mild.
Outside of a specialized vehicle like the Tesla Semi I don't see EVs as making sense for towing. Not to say towing with a diesel truck is desirable, the amount of required energy and resulting pollution is horrendous.
I get that, that's why I mentioned it may take one of two generations for that to become viable. That or a BFB (get it...BFG, Bigger F'n Gun...Bigger F'n...nevermind)
They did it wrong. With EA, you plug-in first, then select the charger from the app and swipe to start charging. Tesla definitely makes it easier where you just plug in, but EA has to deal with so many different EV's while Tesla only has to deal with...Tesla. Tesla won't be seamless at first either for non-Tesla's. Anyway, that's not their fault, this looks like it's their first time using an EA. Also a few times I've used an EA, the charger was offline but only showed it in the app and not on the screen. EA really needs to improve because the number of EV's on the road is growing daily
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They did it wrong. With EA, you plug-in first, then select the charger from the app and swipe to start charging. Tesla definitely makes it easier where you just plug in, but EA has to deal with so many different EV's while Tesla only has to deal with...Tesla. Tesla won't be seamless at first either for non-Tesla's. Anyway, that's not their fault, this looks like it's their first time using an EA. Also a few times I've used an EA, the charger was offline but only showed it in the app and not on the screen. EA really needs to improve because the number of EV's on the road is growing daily
Too long of a video so I only want he’s the first few minutes. You mention they’re supposed to plug-in, then initiate the charge through the app, right? But as soon as they plug-in the charger station screen is doing a bunch of handshaking with the car and authorizing payment, or at least it appears to. It doesn’t seem to give you time to go into your app because the charging station is already doing its thing (except for actually charging). It does seem very confusing. Does Ford (or other EV manufacturers) not walk a new owner through the EA charging process? Seems simple for EA to throw up a screen saying “complete next steps through your app”. Lastly, gosh that’s a big plug!
Too long of a video so I only want he’s the first few minutes. You mention they’re supposed to plug-in, then initiate the charge through the app, right? But as soon as they plug-in the charger station screen is doing a bunch of handshaking with the car and authorizing payment, or at least it appears to. It doesn’t seem to give you time to go into your app because the charging station is already doing its thing (except for actually charging). It does seem very confusing. Does Ford (or other EV manufacturers) not walk a new owner through the EA charging process? Seems simple for EA to throw up a screen saying “complete next steps through your app”. Lastly, gosh that’s a big plug!
The way EA works is you plug in, then it initiates the hand shake between the charger and your cars charging port. You either swipe a credit card, or you open up the app (the app uses location to find the EA location where you are), select the charger by it's number, and swipe to start the charging. You have to be in the same location as the EA chargers to use the app. EA can be a little confusing the first time you use it, but once you use it the first time it's pretty fast and easy.
EA doesn't automatically initiate the charging session, as it doesn't know what car it's plugged into. For example I have a plan called "Polestar 2 plan" which is two years free charging, but I've charged my wife's Ioniq using my plan, and EA has no way of knowing
The way EA works is you plug in, then it initiates the hand shake between the charger and your cars charging port. You either swipe a credit card, or you open up the app (the app uses location to find the EA location where you are), select the charger by it's number, and swipe to start the charging. You have to be in the same location as the EA chargers to use the app. EA can be a little confusing the first time you use it, but once you use it the first time it's pretty fast and easy.
EA doesn't automatically initiate the charging session, as it doesn't know what car it's plugged into. For example I have a plan called "Polestar 2 plan" which is two years free charging, but I've charged my wife's Ioniq using my plan, and EA has no way of knowing
The Fast Lane guys had issues with the learning curve charging their F150 Lightning too the first time. Maybe the manufactures need to include a placard in each car to explain the procedures. Or have the app detect that you’re near an EA charger and pop up a notification to walk you through the process. You are right that it can and will get better but it shouldn’t have taken this long. At least now I’m mentally prepared if we need to use an EA station in the future. Maybe a old Samaritan can print the proper protocol and stock on each station in their locality or post it to “TikTok Taught Me”, lol.
The Fast Lane guys had issues with the learning curve charging their F150 Lightning too the first time. Maybe the manufactures need to include a placard in each car to explain the procedures. Or have the app detect that you’re near an EA charger and pop up a notification to walk you through the process. You are right that it can and will get better but it shouldn’t have taken this long. At least now I’m mentally prepared if we need to use an EA station in the future. Maybe a old Samaritan can print the proper protocol and stock on each station in their locality or post it to “TikTok Taught Me”, lol.
The first time I used an EA fast charger to charge my Polestar I plugged in and the screen said to tap a credit card or tap your smartphone. I kept tapping my smart phone (with the EA app logged in and open), but nothing was happening. It would eventually time out and tell me I need to re-plug. I called the 800 number for EA support listed on every charging station, and got someone immediately. They walked me through using the app, and I never had an issue since. The only issues I've had with EA is when travelling I've noticed that one or two of their fast chargers will be offline, but in three trips I've never had to wait for a charger. In Norcal they mostly seem to work, in SoCal around my brothers area (Ontario/Chino Hills/Corona) there always seems to be one or two offline.
EA support is pretty good, you get someone immediately and one time in SoCal I was using one of the Superchargers that was really sluggish, and they rebooted it for me and everything worked after that!
Finally saw the new F150. SPECTACULAR effort. I like it a lot because it doesn’t look awkward and different like almost every EV out there. Just looks like a Ford truck. Underneath the chassis is next level engineering. Can’t believe the size and design of the rear suspension. Love the fact the full size spare is sitting in the usually spot. Kudos for keeping it body on frame
Now for the BUT…..holy sticker shock. This was not even a fully loaded model. This was mid trim. $100,000 CAN dollars. Apparently top spec is $110,000. I always think of 36mo and warranty vs financing. That is $3138 a month (with tax) to be able to pay it off in the warranty period. Astonishing world we now live in.
not really sure I like the EV style front end.
this is some interesting engineering compared to a solid axle
Cool light on the running board. (My 04 4R has two lights per running board)
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Now for the BUT…..holy sticker shock. This was not even a fully loaded model. This was mid trim. $100,000 CAN dollars. Apparently top spec is $110,000. I always think of 36mo and warranty vs financing. That is $3138 a month (with tax) to be able to pay it off in the warranty period. Astonishing world we now live in.
goes with the 2mil CDN narrow cereal box home in toronto.
don't forget these will be sold to fleet customers as well. perhaps fleet pricing will be cheaper; more discount the more quantity you buy?
i found it cool is that a fleet model can be tailored so the full power cannot be accessed if the owner doesn't want their workers to burn through tires so much haha!
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