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if that's true, definitely not great, and why i believe the strategy of using ICE platforms or having some frankenstein ICE/EV platforms is a mistake.
It has less to do with the platform and more to do with the battery size. The Ioniq 5 which has its own EV platform has a range of only 298 miles on the WLTP cycle and that's only for the RWD model- AWD will chop that down even further. Judging from the range, I'm assuming the G80 has a 75 KWH battery like the Ioniq.
The advantage the G80 and other Hyundai/Kia EV's have is the 800V fast charging.
It has less to do with the platform and more to do with the battery size.
but the platform has an effect on how large a battery can be used and if a platform must support both ICE and EV is must inevitably have compromises and inefficiencies in space utilization.
The Ioniq 5 which has its own EV platform has a range of only 298 miles on the WLTP cycle and that's only for the RWD model- AWD will chop that down even further. Judging from the range, I'm assuming the G80 has a 75 KWH battery like the Ioniq.
besides range, cost is also a factor. i assume the ioniq is targeting a lower price point than a G80 electric. if the G80 electric gets 216 EPA it will be an epic failure.
but the platform has an effect on how large a battery can be used and if a platform must support both ICE and EV is must inevitably have compromises and inefficiencies in space utilization.
But in this case, there doesn't appear to be much of a difference in the range of an EV-specific platform vehicle like the Ioniq 5 and this G80. EV platforms allow for better space utilization, but range has always been most dependent on battery size.
besides range, cost is also a factor. i assume the ioniq is targeting a lower price point than a G80 electric. if the G80 electric gets 216 EPA it will be an epic failure.
The Ioniq will cost less because it'll have less features and creature comforts than an electric G80. It'll also be less powerful with only 300 HP. As for battery size, I can't imagine the G80's will be much bigger than the Ioniq's, so their EPA range will likely be very similar.
but the platform has an effect on how large a battery can be used and if a platform must support both ICE and EV is must inevitably have compromises and inefficiencies in space utilization.
besides range, cost is also a factor. i assume the ioniq is targeting a lower price point than a G80 electric. if the G80 electric gets 216 EPA it will be an epic failure.
But in this case, there doesn't appear to be much of a difference in the range of an EV-specific platform vehicle like the Ioniq 5 and this G80. EV platforms allow for better space utilization, but range has always been most dependent on battery size.
The Ioniq will cost less because it'll have less features and creature comforts than an electric G80. It'll also be less powerful with only 300 HP. As for battery size, I can't imagine the G80's will be much bigger than the Ioniq's, so their EPA range will likely be very similar.
it would be weird if these vehicles have similar range with similar battery size, just like Y and X do not have same range with same batteries, it is due to weight, aerodynamics, etc.
Now, since they are not using dedicated platform, quite likely they can not have 90/100kwh battery that vehicle of this size needs.
it would be weird if these vehicles have similar range with similar battery size, just like Y and X do not have same range with same batteries, it is due to weight, aerodynamics, etc.
Now, since they are not using dedicated platform, quite likely they can not have 90/100kwh battery that vehicle of this size needs.
Funny enough the Ioniq 5 has the exact same wheelbase as the G80- 118 inches. So size-wise and weight-wise, they shouldn't be too far off from each other.
I think we may end up seeing a 100KWH battery in that Genesis EV that shares the same platform with the Ioniq. But of course it'll cost significantly more than the Ioniq and possibly the G80.
I am interested how this is gonna work out for Genny. I can’t think of any brand (aside from Toyota and Lexus) at the moment that has a gas or EV option in the same identical car. Wonder what the cost will be compared to the two gas options and I would like to know what the weight increase will be compared to the gas models.
I am interested to know how the economies of scale will work out by building a gas and EV model on the same assembling line using so many similar parts.
I’m intrigued
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Apr 22, 2021 at 06:39 PM.
I am interested how this is gonna work out. I can’t think of any brand (aside from Toyota and Lexus) at the moment that has a gas or EV option in the same identical car. Wonder what the cost will be compared to the two gas options and I would like to know what the weight increase will be compared to the gas models.
I’m intrigued
Hyundai and Kia have a number of vehicles that are offered in gas, hybrid, PHEV and electric. See Kona, Ioniq (no regular gas), Soul previously had an EV and Gas versions.
Volvo XC40 has gas and EV version, they also have a PHEV abroad.
For all the wondering and intrigue that you have about things, you could actually spend some time looking them up, experiencing them, and trying them out.
Hyundai and Kia have a number of vehicles that are offered in gas, hybrid, PHEV and electric. See Kona, Ioniq (no regular gas), Soul previously had an EV and Gas versions.
Volvo XC40 has gas and EV version, they also have a PHEV abroad.
For all the wondering and intrigue that you have about things, you could actually spend some time looking them up, experiencing them, and trying them out.
‘yeah...now that you mention Kona and Ionic Never paid attention to Volvo to be honest.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Apr 22, 2021 at 07:10 PM.
It seems that the biggest penalty compared to the ICE will be the back seats and trunk space being cut down because of the battery, like a hybrid. The battery will be 87 kWH, which is only slightly larger than the 77kWH battery in the Ioniq 5.
Genesis G80 electric revealed
Never paid attention to Volvo to be honest.