Sofyan posted his review today, he said the ride refinement was basically on par with the EQS. And he got around 280 miles in real world testing over a week's drive, so the EPA rating isn't an exaggeration.


The moonroof and heated rear seats were omitted because of EV/battery placement and rigidity compromises. This car (and the GV60) could also do with better tires, the motors absolutely overwhelm the stock ones.

 

That’s what I’m watching right now. Incredible he feels it’s on par with the EQS

 

good for genesis, especially starting from an ice car, although h/k/g seem to be making new ice cars with an ev version in mind anyway.

 

Especially considering the EQS rides on air while the G80 is just steel springs. Though it's probably only a matter of time before the G80 also gets the air suspension from the recent G90.

 

Let’s see if this really will be the case (doubt it). The trunk is just 10 cubic feet. No glass or an open moonroof. The 0-60 is great, gobbs of torque

 

Just like gas tanks, batteries have reserves built into them. When you hit absolute zero, you usually have an additional 20 or 30 miles left, so you actually get more mileage than advertised if you are the risk taker type. If Sofyan got 280 miles on it, that means normal every day driving it will get 300 miles plus because he doesn't drive normal, he constantly floors the car, so he is far from real world. If my Polestar can get 250 miles on a charge, this car which is way more efficient can easily get 300

 

You mentioned earlier that you would be tempted if you could get 300 miles range, but why 300 miles? If I could share something I've learned living with an EV for the last 8 months, 300 miles of range is actually a waste of battery for most people because unless you have a daily commute of over 100 miles a day, you are paying for that extra slice of battery that you are maybe fully utilizing when you go on the occasional trip. My Polestar has a 250 mile range, and honestly now that I have a Level 2 charger, I plug it in every two weeks, because it takes two weeks to utilize 50 percent of the battery capacity. The only time I actually fully utilize the 78 kWh battery (77 kWh usable according to Polestar) is when I go on a trip to visit my family in SoCal (390 miles one way), otherwise 90 percent of the time I'm not even using the available capacity.

So a car like Lucid Air or EQS with 500 mile range for most people IMHO is a huge waste. It sounds cool, hey I can drive 500 miles in a single sitting, but if you are not fully utilizing the battery capacity on a daily basis, you are paying for something you are not using, like buying an extra large Pizza when a medium would have sufficed because only 3 slices got eaten. Personally, unless it's a family car that we frequently go on longer trips, for myself I would stick to a 250 through maximum 300 mile range battery because I'm rarely using the additional capacity, but still paying for it.

What I'm saying is the G80 is probably a perfect fit for you. It's well built, well reviewed, a luxury car that doesn't have the polarizing styling and tech of the EQS, you can actually get one unlike the Lucid and it's pricing is actually pretty good

 

respectfully, you need to think outside your own bubble. for some people, especially in sales or service, they drive all day. so it's not about 'commute distance' or the 'occasional trip' (for which you have tons of charging infrastructure).

 

That's why I specifically mentioned this: "unless you have a daily commute of over 100 miles a day, you are paying for that extra slice of battery that you are maybe fully utilizing when you go on the occasional trip"

If he doesn't fit in that and drives a lot, than he would need more range. All he has to say is that, and I have no argument with it. Your saying this as if I'm trying to put him in my situation, I'm just giving him advice based on my experience. You seem a little irritated with me me lately, maybe I offended you in some way?

 

What Genesis accomplished with a converted ICE platform was pretty remarkable, especially compared to attempts by other brands. The BMW i4 has practically the same battery size (83.7 kWH vs. the G80's 87.2 kWH) and also gets 282 miles of range like the G80... but only in RWD single motor form. Meanwhile the G80 is dual motor and a whole class size larger, and weighs 400 pounds more than the RWD i4.

 

What’s the MSRP of that G80?

 

You literally posted the price a few posts above.

 

The G80 is nowhere close to the performance, despite being more $$

 

I think her point is the G80 also costs much more. So it's really not apple to apple comparison.

 

Yup………