BMW confirms not scrapping ICEs...
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If tariffs were used correctly, they would. Tariffs should be used for infantile industries and segments. If the US were to tariff all EVs coming in, you'd see the manufactures do it. Further, if the US was to commit to a conversion...you'd see an extraordinary thing as the US used to lead to lead the world.
Please go and take a drive through middle America and then compare it to the boom and development of China since the 1990s. This will only get worse as we completely get rid of the last manufacturing sector still left to some degree.
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The rest of the world is not going to convert to EV any time soon especially when the realities set in, mainly just some Euro countries will try, China is already backing off a little. The US will be at a advantage if it doesn't put all its eggs in forced mass EV's/"green energy", has a wait and see strategy/approach, and continues to give people choices and utilize a combination of power/energy/options especially considering the enormous reserves the US has in oil/NG and the infrastructure already in place to utilize it.
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"Get moving" taking over lithium/nickel/other element reserves, going to war with China over future energy, get in spending competition who spends the most on the reserves left?
The rest of the world is not going to convert to EV any time soon especially when the realities set in, mainly just some Euro countries will try, China is already backing off a little. The US will be at a advantage if it doesn't put all its eggs in forced mass EV's/"green energy", has a wait and see strategy/approach, and continues to give people choices and utilize a combination of power/energy/options especially considering the enormous reserves the US has in oil/NG and the infrastructure already in place to utilize it.
The rest of the world is not going to convert to EV any time soon especially when the realities set in, mainly just some Euro countries will try, China is already backing off a little. The US will be at a advantage if it doesn't put all its eggs in forced mass EV's/"green energy", has a wait and see strategy/approach, and continues to give people choices and utilize a combination of power/energy/options especially considering the enormous reserves the US has in oil/NG and the infrastructure already in place to utilize it.
sad story is Tesla and how they went to China...now the UK models are being shipped from China. Just wait till Fremont closes.
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We disagree on the points you mentioned. Fossil fuel burning will continue to increase carbon levels which over time will greatly harm the planet. Every piece of research points i've read points to this. Going EV is just the beginning in a series of steps to reverse the damage and it won't reverse the impact in my lifetime but irresponsible for us to not try. I don't know if an all out ban is the answer but EV adoption can greatly decrease carbon footprint in many situations. I've significantly reduced mine for sure and most of Tesla owning friends have also.
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Never claimed I was saving the planet but the switch from fossil fuels is one step in many to help save the planet. Just doing 1 thing isn't going to save the planet but will take a concerted effort on many different fronts. Also, no need to get personal, this is philosophical discussion about the switch to EV.
Never claimed I was saving the planet but the switch from fossil fuels is one step in many to help save the planet. Just doing 1 thing isn't going to save the planet but will take a concerted effort on many different fronts. Also, no need to get personal, this is philosophical discussion about the switch to EV.
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