Kia EV6
Hyundai isn’t capturing the market share that they would if the value of the vehicles would pass on to the consumers. Like you said though they’re production constrained anyways.

Ironically they've become the world's third largest manufacturer this year by volume. They are definitely production constrained, but handling it quite a bit better than most other OEM's- looking specifically at you, Honda.
Last edited by Motorola; Jan 16, 2023 at 08:16 PM.
Thats the average price of a new car sold. If we consider all cars sold, I think the average price would be in the 30k.
It might be your everyday EV but its not an every day vehicle for your average consumer, which is the target market for KIA, Toyota, Honda, Chevy, etc.
At the 50k price range, I'm going with a real luxury car like a Lexus. The badge, the styling, the cost, the drivetrain - non of it warrants a 50k price tag(at least in my opinion).
The problem is that car manufacturers are trying to be something that they are not. KIA is trying to get more money out of their target market, but those who can afford 50k cars are in a different segment(Luxury- Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Cadillac, BMW, MERC, Buick, Genesis).
It's still a 50k car(which is luxury money). I would never spend that kind of money on a KIA.
As mentioned by SW, it's an everyday EV. What's special about it is it can do the N'ring or track effortlessly and in the next moment be your daily driver, smooth as butter at any speed. Think about it: 576 hp, 0-60 in 3.5 seconds, and an MPG equivalent of 105 mpg combined! If dealerships weren't marking this up so much I would consider this
At the 50k price range, I'm going with a real luxury car like a Lexus. The badge, the styling, the cost, the drivetrain - non of it warrants a 50k price tag(at least in my opinion).
The problem is that car manufacturers are trying to be something that they are not. KIA is trying to get more money out of their target market, but those who can afford 50k cars are in a different segment(Luxury- Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Cadillac, BMW, MERC, Buick, Genesis).
EVs are more expensive than ICE cars, and $50k isn't what it used to be. $50k isn't even a loaded minivan anymore.
Its a comfortable, sporty spacious EV that looks good, has good range and good performance. Thats what it is, like I said they can't build them fast enough so they must be doing something right. Compared to a Tesla Model 3 its cheaper.
Its a comfortable, sporty spacious EV that looks good, has good range and good performance. Thats what it is, like I said they can't build them fast enough so they must be doing something right. Compared to a Tesla Model 3 its cheaper.
Last edited by xGS350x; Jan 16, 2023 at 09:37 PM.
Thats the average price of a new car sold. If we consider all cars sold, I think the average price would be in the 30k.
It might be your everyday EV but its not an every day vehicle for your average consumer, which is the target market for KIA, Toyota, Honda, Chevy, etc.
At the 50k price range, I'm going with a real luxury car like a Lexus. The badge, the styling, the cost, the drivetrain - non of it warrants a 50k price tag(at least in my opinion).
The problem is that car manufacturers are trying to be something that they are not. KIA is trying to get more money out of their target market, but those who can afford 50k cars are in a different segment(Luxury- Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Cadillac, BMW, MERC, Buick, Genesis).
It's still a 50k car(which is luxury money). I would never spend that kind of money on a KIA.
It might be your everyday EV but its not an every day vehicle for your average consumer, which is the target market for KIA, Toyota, Honda, Chevy, etc.
At the 50k price range, I'm going with a real luxury car like a Lexus. The badge, the styling, the cost, the drivetrain - non of it warrants a 50k price tag(at least in my opinion).
The problem is that car manufacturers are trying to be something that they are not. KIA is trying to get more money out of their target market, but those who can afford 50k cars are in a different segment(Luxury- Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Cadillac, BMW, MERC, Buick, Genesis).
It's still a 50k car(which is luxury money). I would never spend that kind of money on a KIA.
. Used, yes. New, not so much
Drivetrain? RX 500h for example is $65,000. 4-cylinder engine with performance not even close to most EVs. Lexus is so far in the past it's tragic.
at 50k most luxury cars with be equipped with a V6 - V8(nobody is going to fit a 4 banger in their luxury lineup). And you can't compare the performance between the two cars as they are two different technologies. You have to compare EV to EV and ICE to ICE.
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Jan 16, 2023 at 11:18 PM.
I agree, but Lexus is dropping the V8 and V6 in almost everything. Take a look at all their SUV'S and crossovers
On the bold, yes you 100% do compare EV to ICE.
Even with a 4cylinder Turbo, I'd still pick it over a KIA. The prestige of the brand and what it represents will not make me stray of the path into a KIA.
No way. I would consider an EV Genesis though.











