Lexus IS500 F SPORT Performance
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Bleh, the car has a touchscreen... Not sure where the failure is - in the reviewers' own ability to experiment with the car, or Lexus in failing to communicate that the touchscreen exists. Either way, I see this mistake - assuming there is no touch screen - all the time in reviews of the new IS.
Also: "I suspect there's more than a dash of stereo enhancement to the sound." This is not a quality review. This person is leaning on their writing skills while doing no actual fact-checking.
I actually disagree wholeheartedly. The fact that it has an NA V8 and is more of a cruiser than a road course machine is exactly what I would want. It's not a true F, and that's fine by me. Besides, the 5.0 V8 is a great engine that is not long for this world. Unless you're implying it should have been reserved for a hypothetical "IS F", which is, to date, hypothetical.
Also: "I suspect there's more than a dash of stereo enhancement to the sound." This is not a quality review. This person is leaning on their writing skills while doing no actual fact-checking.
I actually disagree wholeheartedly. The fact that it has an NA V8 and is more of a cruiser than a road course machine is exactly what I would want. It's not a true F, and that's fine by me. Besides, the 5.0 V8 is a great engine that is not long for this world. Unless you're implying it should have been reserved for a hypothetical "IS F", which is, to date, hypothetical.
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I think given the announced price, this is the car that Lexus should have released! Most people don't want an M car or an F car...its too much sport. The hardcore speed enthusiasts have already moved on to other brands so this will cater to the Lexus buyer who cares more about the V8 and reliability and comfort. Do I think this is a better car than something like an M340? Yes but I don't believe for a minute that it will come close the the sales of the M340. No way this gets cross shopped with an M3 buyer.
Thanks guys, last Lexus I sat in was my old GS and that one definitely wouldn't have worked as a touchscreen where it was
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As you know, BMW gives you the option to use touchscreen or the idrive controller and I always use the idrive controller because the fingerprints drive me crazy. My wife, however, randomly uses the touchscreen so I automatically see the finger prints and I'm like WTF!
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That sounds so familiar lol. My pleasant reminders don't have any effect on her either. I think she knows I'll clean the prints off quickly.
Am I the only one who thinks the screen looks like an afterthought? Almost looks like it should go up and down to get out of the driver's line of sight to me. Or is it not so intrusive in person?
I use the "mouse" in the GS F, and I almost never use the touchscreen in the IS F (it could break and I probably wouldn't even notice) because I only use the maintenance function to track oil/fluid/filter changes and I use a BT adapter with my phone for everything else. Would it be nice to have a clone of my phone's screen? Sure, but I'd probably use it about as much as I use the touchscreen now...Honestly the infotainment stuff is more for my kids than it is for me. I rarely play music when I am alone in the car(s).
I use the "mouse" in the GS F, and I almost never use the touchscreen in the IS F (it could break and I probably wouldn't even notice) because I only use the maintenance function to track oil/fluid/filter changes and I use a BT adapter with my phone for everything else. Would it be nice to have a clone of my phone's screen? Sure, but I'd probably use it about as much as I use the touchscreen now...Honestly the infotainment stuff is more for my kids than it is for me. I rarely play music when I am alone in the car(s).
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Am I the only one who thinks the screen looks like an afterthought? Almost looks like it should go up and down to get out of the driver's line of sight to me. Or is it not so intrusive in person?
I use the "mouse" in the GS F, and I almost never use the touchscreen in the IS F (it could break and I probably wouldn't even notice) because I only use the maintenance function to track oil/fluid/filter changes and I use a BT adapter with my phone for everything else. Would it be nice to have a clone of my phone's screen? Sure, but I'd probably use it about as much as I use the touchscreen now...Honestly the infotainment stuff is more for my kids than it is for me. I rarely play music when I am alone in the car(s).
I use the "mouse" in the GS F, and I almost never use the touchscreen in the IS F (it could break and I probably wouldn't even notice) because I only use the maintenance function to track oil/fluid/filter changes and I use a BT adapter with my phone for everything else. Would it be nice to have a clone of my phone's screen? Sure, but I'd probably use it about as much as I use the touchscreen now...Honestly the infotainment stuff is more for my kids than it is for me. I rarely play music when I am alone in the car(s).
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Just watched Doug Demuros review and his summary is why did Lexus even bother making this car? Its appeal will be limited to only folks interested in buying a compact sedan with a V8 - that's about it. I can't imagine there are a lot of folks like that.
Other than the glorious V8, everything else about it seems to be so ancient (for a brand new car) - the archaic infotainment system, lack of wireless charging, no charge ports in the rear, really weird 360 camera, slow shifting tranny etc.
But that V8 👍👍🔥
Other than the glorious V8, everything else about it seems to be so ancient (for a brand new car) - the archaic infotainment system, lack of wireless charging, no charge ports in the rear, really weird 360 camera, slow shifting tranny etc.
But that V8 👍👍🔥
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Just watched Doug Demuros review and his summary is why did Lexus even bother making this car? Its appeal will be limited to only folks interested in buying a compact sedan with a V8 - that's about it. I can't imagine there are a lot of folks like that.
Other than the glorious V8, everything else about it seems to be so ancient (for a brand new car) - the archaic infotainment system, lack of wireless charging, no charge ports in the rear, really weird 360 camera, slow shifting tranny etc.
But that V8 👍👍🔥
Other than the glorious V8, everything else about it seems to be so ancient (for a brand new car) - the archaic infotainment system, lack of wireless charging, no charge ports in the rear, really weird 360 camera, slow shifting tranny etc.
But that V8 👍👍🔥
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Sep 14, 2021 at 03:16 PM.
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They had to make it a touchscreen and closer to the driver because the mouse and trackpad were so bad. Its literally the worst input mechanism from any manufacturer.