2021 / 2022 Buick Envision
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Yes, I'm aware of that. But, if Buick is aiming for production and sales starting in early-2021, chances are they have already finalized both the interior and exterior. They have to schedule and verify the parts-delivery from their contractors and sub-contractors months in advance.
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Yes, I'm aware of that. But, if Buick is aiming for production and sales starting in early-2021, chances are they have already finalized both the interior and exterior. They have to schedule and verify the parts-delivery from their contractors and sub-contractors months in advance.
which is definitely the case in the test mule pics you posted.
They may have parts contracts in place, but that doesn’t mean they have a final fully assembled interior to display to the public yet.
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I don’t agree. Why do you think early production versions of new cars sit on turntables at auto shows with signs “Keep Off”? They don’t want the public peering at the non-production interior.
which is definitely the case in the test mule pics you posted.
They may have parts contracts in place, but that doesn’t mean they have a final fully assembled interior to display to the public yet.
which is definitely the case in the test mule pics you posted.
They may have parts contracts in place, but that doesn’t mean they have a final fully assembled interior to display to the public yet.
I still like the exterior even if the interior is up in the air right now.
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Just wait till Tesla starts importing Chinese made models. But, back to Buick GM builds the Lacrosse is China, why couldn’t they export the Detroit made Lacrosse when it was still being built in America?
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Does it look special?? no, but the Pontiac Aztec looked special/unique and where did that get it?
I think it looks better than the RAV4....but..................I'd never buy it if it's made it China.
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Apparently GM did not learn its lesson (bring jobs back home) from the big strike last year. Might be time for the UAW to start organizing again....and this time for UNIFOR to join. Only problem is where the strike is actually going to come from........few workers are actually working anyway, because of the pandemic.
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Apple could make their iPhones in the US if they really wanted to. Problem is, they have outsourced their manufacturing to cheap Chinese labor which just saves tons of money and then goes to the top execs
but that will be overlooked, because, well... "Elon"
because UAW labor costs, import tariffs, etc. make that not feasible.
that's a low bar.
there's a difference between special and "special" 
agree it looks better, and as for buying a china made one, wouldn't bother me because let's face it, 90% of hard good we buy are already made in china.
it goes to lots of things... yes, the execs make a pile because they made the company make that pile so good for them, it's called capitalism. but all their employees are very well compensated, and building the 'ring' in silicon valley must have been insanely expensive (and now probably largely empty since COVID!).
But, back to Buick GM builds the Lacrosse is China, why couldn’t they export the Detroit made Lacrosse when it was still being built in America?
that's a low bar.
Does it look special?? no, but the Pontiac Aztec looked special/unique and where did that get it?
I think it looks better than the RAV4....but..................I'd never buy it if it's made it China.
it goes to lots of things... yes, the execs make a pile because they made the company make that pile so good for them, it's called capitalism. but all their employees are very well compensated, and building the 'ring' in silicon valley must have been insanely expensive (and now probably largely empty since COVID!).
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Buick has a long history in China.....Lot of different products are made there.....Bet you have a few products made there. Times change, heck I can remember my mother mentioning different products made in Japan in the 60's.
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that's a low bar.
there's a difference between special and "special"
agree it looks better, and as for buying a china made one, wouldn't bother me because let's face it, 90% of hard good we buy are already made in china.
it goes to lots of things... yes, the execs make a pile because they made the company make that pile so good for them, it's called capitalism. but all their employees are very well compensated, and building the 'ring' in silicon valley must have been insanely expensive (and now probably largely empty since COVID!).
Last edited by mmarshall; Jun 3, 2020 at 06:39 AM.