What about tariffs on components, like steel?

 

Are you talking abut imported steel? We still produce some steel within or our own borders, although, of course, nothing like before the 1970s.

 

I thought there was promise that all the US steel mills in the rust belt were gonna come back?

I think you confused. If something is made in the US with UAW labor, there would be no US tariff.

Just so you know....Any car made in Canada or Mexico with a certain percentage of North American parts is US tariff-free.

 

The promise (which was largely kept) was that American steel jobs would return.....a number of them have. Nowhere was a promise made that things would be like they were 40 years ago. I can't expound any more on it here, because it would probably violate the prohibition on political posts.

No confusion. That was exactly my point.

Agreed.....but that didn't change my point.

Tariffs and surcharges, though, don't necessarily impact sales....the way Japanese vehicles sold here in the 1980s proved that. They went out the door faster than they could come in, despite tariffs and/or dealer mark-ups.

 

It is actually quite interesting, people on here don’t seem to care. Or they just wanna argue origin for the sake of origin. I like to know where everything is made, yes you are right drugs that are used by Americans are manufactured in China. Most are too young to remember when they were in fact made domestically, that all changed around the late 80s 90s and I think 2000. Even worse, there are no tariffs for drugs coming into the country, but there are tariffs to China on drugs exporting the USA. Most are too young to remember when they were in fact made domestically, that all changed around the late 80s 90s and I think 2000. Even worse, there are no tariffs for drugs coming into the country of China, but there are tariffs to China on drugs exporting the USA

 

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>>>>Used to be if you worked for Henry, you could afford one of his cars....A couple of my buddies work for Ford at plant 2 in Claycomo which just started back up a week ago.....Nope they don't get really any special breaks on a 150, let alone any Ford vehicle.

 

Well, here's (supposedly?) a preview-shot of the 2021 Envision's interior, but I can't (and won't) vouch for its authenticity. So, don't toss any stones at me if it isn't. Buick, of course, has not officially released any interior shots.....which, IMO, they should have done by now.



However, as tex2760 mentioned earlier, it could (?) be a parts-bin interior that doesn't necessarily reflect the final design. But, seems to me that, with an early-2021 release schedule, they would have things final, or pretty close to it, by now.

 

Nice interior, very driver-centric

 

Nice interior. Not really a fan of push button PDRL, but I guess that is what is in style. I don’t love it when the interior is slanted towards the driver 3/4 of our cars are like that, but it is what it is I guess.

 

could be 2021 china only for now.

 

Good, keep it there.

 

Why? Once the pandemic is over, there is still a red-hot market in the U.S. for upscale-crossovers, and this new Envision is sure to sell quite well.....particularly with its good looks. Sure, I'm with you that I'd rather see it built in the U.S., with American labor instead of Chinese, but, regardless of its plant-of-origin, there will be a good market for it here. In fact, I'm going to take a good look at it myself....I liked a lot of things about the new Buick Encore GX, but found the turbo-three engine lacking in refinement and the ride not as smooth as I would have preferred.

 

Here's the (estimated) pricing from Car & Driver, though Buick itself has not formally released pricing yet.

These prices seem a little high to me, although GM has been somewhat high on their SUV pricing lately.....witness the loaded 50K Blazers. Still, for a Buick, these prices are squarely in Cadillac XT4/XT5 territory.....which suggests, to me, that Buick, along with Cadillac, is aiming the new Envision squarely at Lincoln's Corsair.



https://www.caranddriver.com/buick/envision

• Select: $38,000 (est)
• Preferred: $41,000 (est)
• Essence: $44,000 (est)
• Premium: $46,000 (est)
• Avenir: $50,000 (est)

 

....and, folks, it looks like we now have the first official interior photos...from a GM-credible source.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2020/06...nd-new-photos/

2021 Buick Envision Interior Revealed In Brand New Photos

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• BY DEIVIS CENTENO
• — JUN 26, 2020

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When General Motors announced the all-new 2021 Buick Envision for the United States and for China, it only shared images of the exterior of the overhauled crossover, leaving the appearance of the cabin a mystery, until now. Brand new photos officially shared by GM in China reveal the 2021 Buick Envision interior, including that of the range-topping Avenir trim level as well as less models. Both will be sold as the Buick Envision in the North American market, while getting the Envision S moniker in China.

The images show what we previewed in spy shots last year: the second-generation Envision will have a state-of-the-art cabin that’s full of luxury and technology.



Aesthetically, the 2021 Buick Envision interior features the latest interpretation of the brand’s interior design language, characterized by an asymmetric and unique layout.

Particularly noteworthy is the large multimedia screen embedded in an original configuration with an 18-degree inline towards the driver in order to facilitate readability and usability.



The dash is divided into two primary sections, with the display, instrument panel, and outboard air vents being part of the top section, while climate and vehicle controls are part of the lower section on the center stack, flowing into the console. A set of air vents within the center stack divides these two sections.



Meanwhile, the dash distinctly separates the driver and front passenger sections. There’s also a single armrest that’s divided into two sections, along with a gear selection mechanism that uses triggers/buttons identical to that found in the the Chinese-market Enclave.



In addition, the 2021 Buick Envision interior offers ample space with a capacity for five passengers and more than 20 storage spaces. The feeling of spaciousness is enhanced by the largest panoramic sunroof in its segment, providing an open and comfortable viewing experience for occupants. The Avenir range-topper has an interior finished in Ivory White and Jazz Black, with high-quality materials and finishes.



The all-new 2021 Buick Envision will go on sale in late 2020 in China and in early 2021 in North America. All the details related to equipment and features will be revealed closer to launch in both markets.

GM Authority has confirmed with Buick officials that this all-new Envision will be produced at the SAIC-GM Jinqiao South plant to supply both the Chinese domestic market as well as the United States, Canada and Mexico. The vehicle rides on the GM E2 platform shared most directly with the first-generation Cadillac XT4.

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Really don't like the angled center stack, but other than that, looks very nice.