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What baffles me is these issues have been with Tesla since the beginning. It amazes me they have yet to address their build quality.
This is the first production run of the Y so these issues aren't surprising. The Model 3 has been significantly improved since launch and most example don't have these quality issues right now. If you see the teardown that Munroe has done for the Model Y, he basically says that its much better than their initial Model 3 runs but the first production examples aren't perfect. The Model Y forums have complained of these issues but the Model 3 has largely subsided in terms of these quality issues. You're also not going to get the build quality of a luxury manufacturer from Tesla. They aren't really luxury...more premium/tech.
This is the first production run of the Y so these issues aren't surprising.
Aren't surprising? I just don't understand how they can leave the factory with such issues. No inspections!? Or is Stevie Wonder doing them?
If you see the teardown that Munroe has done for the Model Y, he basically says that its much better than their initial Model 3 runs but the first production examples aren't perfect.
That seems to be a giant understatement.
The Model Y forums have complained of these issues but the Model 3 has largely subsided in terms of these quality issues. You're also not going to get the build quality of a luxury manufacturer from Tesla. They aren't really luxury...more premium/tech.
This has nothing to do with premium or luxury positioning...
I wouldn't accept a Chevy or any cheap vehicle with these defects let alone one costing over $50K.
Aren't surprising? I just don't understand how they can leave the factory with such issues. No inspections!? Or is Stevie Wonder doing them?
That seems to be a giant understatement.
This has nothing to do with premium or luxury positioning...
I wouldn't accept a Chevy or any cheap vehicle with these defects let alone one costing over $50K.
Go watch Munroe's first couple videos and he breaks down how much panel gap and other issues there are. Some cars come out perfect while others are Friday afternoon cars and look pretty bad. I have a couple friends with Teslas and one was pretty bad where he had 5 service visits to fix different panel issues...however, it has all been resolved to his satisfaction. Mine came near perfect...its a later production car with good panel gaps and minimal paint issues. I had a professional PPE installer do a full check straight from dealer to check and see if i need correction before installing PPF and he said it looked really good. Other friends after my purchase had really good results so they've gotten significantly better. Their Model 3s are like any other non-luxury car in terms of build quality. The Model Y is going through teething issues like the Model 3 did. Tesla will allow imperfect cars to leave their factory because their philosophy is to let the service centers fix them when the customer complains. Their goal is to get sales at the expense of quality. Its not surprising as they've done this for years.
I don't understand how paint quality is so inconsistent considering the process is automated with robots etc. You'd think that adjustments and programming could be made to assure more consistency.
I don't understand how paint quality is so inconsistent considering the process is automated with robots etc. You'd think that adjustments and programming could be made to assure more consistency.
Elon likes to do things his way, mostly this is a positive but obviously it has major downsides. I'm betting instead of using an established method he set out to "make it better" as he does with everything. What he came up with probably is better but any new system requires refinement there are always going to be bugs and growing pains. Or possibly the paint system is simply no good.
Some things Musk does really grinds my gears for example he likes red and insists the factory bits are all red instead of the usual yellow including dangerous areas like robotics. The red he uses is not as noticeable, but hey he likes red.
Elon likes to do things his way, mostly this is a positive but obviously it has major downsides. I'm betting instead of using an established method he set out to "make it better" as he does with everything. What he came up with probably is better but any new system requires refinement there are always going to be bugs and growing pains. Or possibly the paint system is simply no good.
Some things Musk does really grinds my gears for example he likes red and insists the factory bits are all red instead of the usual yellow including dangerous areas like robotics. The red he uses is not as noticeable, but hey he likes red.
Tesla paint is definitely soft. The best investment i've made for the car is to get PPF especially in the whole front. This prevents rock chips but you can clean bug guts off the PPF and doesn't scratch like paint. So you basically have a clean looking car for longer. Also, the roof is all glass so bird bombs and other crap doesn't get etched on the roof. Almost a requirement on a Tesla
Tesla paint is definitely soft. The best investment i've made for the car is to get PPF especially in the whole front. This prevents rock chips but you can clean bug guts off the PPF and doesn't scratch like paint. So you basically have a clean looking car for longer.
Soft paint has become a major issue across most brands including Lexus. The problem Tesla is having is inconsistent paint depth and particle contamination in the paint.
Also, the roof is all glass so bird bombs and other crap doesn't get etched on the roof. Almost a requirement on a Tesla
Plus you can see the birds planning their evil deeds. Birds hate that.
And just like every other material defect that every other mfg can fix really easily this will be swept under the rug once those sales numbers showcase it being the best selling crossover in the world.
Its sad how much leeway Tesla has but hey just a hater lol
Tesla will allow imperfect cars to leave their factory because their philosophy is to let the service centers fix them when the customer complains. Their goal is to get sales at the expense of quality. Its not surprising as they've done this for years.
may not be surprising, but fixing it at a service center isn't 'free' - i guess they're just 'hoping' the customer won't notice or won't complain or bother taking it in. that sounds just like gm in the 80s.
defects like horrible paint - they're doing themselves a giant disservice not fixing that in the factory. it's a huge blemish on their reputation that doesn't go away quickly. remember these "ford=fix or repair daily" and "fiat=fix it again tony"? maybe we should make one up for tesla. "tried everything still lousy automobile" ?
I don't understand how paint quality is so inconsistent considering the process is automated with robots etc. You'd think that adjustments and programming could be made to assure more consistency.
maybe elon yelled at the robots one too many times.
may not be surprising, but fixing it at a service center isn't 'free' - i guess they're just 'hoping' the customer won't notice or won't complain or bother taking it in. that sounds just like gm in the 80s.
defects like horrible paint - they're doing themselves a giant disservice not fixing that in the factory. it's a huge blemish on their reputation that doesn't go away quickly. remember these "ford=fix or repair daily" and "fiat=fix it again tony"? maybe we should make one up for tesla. "tried everything still lousy automobile" ?
they had to push the cars out of factories so they can post record deliveries and profits... QC was never a priority.
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