I remember back in the day some debate team won their championship debates and the guy who won was given the title "master debater" sounds really good until somebody starts laughing and cracking jokes.

 

As I said in another thread, in hindsight I wish I would have picked the UX hybrid instead of the NX and I'll probably be looking to get out of the NX lease as soon as it's economically doable.

 

Agreed, its too downmarket for the Lexus brand, these vehicles (in my eyes) dilute the "premiun-ness" of the luxury brands message. Not just the Lexus UX either, there's also the 1 series BMW, X1 BMW, X2 BMW, Mercedes CLA, Mercedes GLA, Mercedes GLB, and marginally the Audi A3 range. I understand Acura having the ILX, but thats because they're not really considered a luxury brand even though they try.

 

I think it’s cheaper to get into a Mercedes than it is a Lincoln All brands have downmarket stuff. Lexus needs a V12...

 

I wouldn't be surprised. And totally agreed on a V-12 Lexus, because they need more products like the LS and LC to help foster the upmarket message. Mercedes have cheap stuff, but on the other hand they also have Pullman S-Classes, AMG G-Wagons, AMG GT's rolling around. Put the V-12 into the LX570, create a much better interior and let it compete with the G-Wagon. It may not sell much, but I have to believe it'll have a long term effect on sales of stuff like ES's, RX's and NX's.

 

Maybe. Lexus worldwide is growing, they are up 10% this year worldwide. It’s clear they have designed there new cars for world markets, the UX as well. A V12 LS would be wicked as I think Lexus will always have that against the brand.

Mercedes sells work vans and passenger mini vans with the Metris, so maybe Lexus needs their own minivan, call it the MX350. Also, I have always said they should have a Tundra based Lexus pick up truck.

 

If C&D lists other cars by just the model (UX) and not their model numbers too (UX200h/UX250h) then this is nothing.

 

Hey, don't blame yourself. I did not post what I did to try and make you feel bad or regret your decision....I don't operate that way. We have all made automotive decisions that we wish we hadn't.....myself included. Only, unlike you, I made those mistakes back when the American auto industry was producing lemons of a kind that today's owners can't even begin to imagine. You may not like the NX (I don't either), but at least it is reliable.

 

i saw 2 of those in NYC in the past year. Not offering AWD on the gas model was and still is a huge mistake.

 

I'm surprised you guys aren't seeing these regularly. I feel like I see a good 5+ a day, if not more.

 

Oh I definitely didn't interpret it that way so no problem at all. I let other people talk me out of what I knew was probably the vehicle I needed to get. Each time I brought the UX up all I got was "Ewww... don't get that". Payment would have been slightly higher on the UX than the NX. Insurance rates were exactly the same. But I can probably guarantee at 327 miles on the odometer I wouldn't be on my 3rd tank of gas with an average of 13.6 mpg. My daily/weekly average commute just doesn't add up for a turbocharged CUV. I need the best mpg on regular gas that I can get and this NX definitely ain't it.

 

I see them all the time. Great looking vehicle

 

does this qualify as a gaffe?........the pen is leaking

I see 3-4 day, but surprisingly not as much as RX and NX

 

13.6 mpg? Wow that's terrible. Have you had the NX checked out for any problem? Maybe a bit of a lead foot? Small turbo enignes do well when driven fairly conservatively but the mpg's drop fast when driven hard.

 

i have never seen one on the road.
lots of most other lexus of course.