Ain't that the truth.

Although money is nice to have (I myself, though not loaded, have more than what I need), simply having it is no guarantee of common sense or intelligence. The Riches-to-Rags road is as common, if not more so, than Rags-to-Riches.

All the more reason to elect sensible people to public office....but I won't go into that any further because it will make the thread too political.

 

Not trying to argue the last point, just that it reminds of a quote from Who killed the electric car?. Anyone else remember GM's EV1 back in the 1990s? Owners loved the EV1 but GM and the oil industry saw to its demise. Sorry to go off on a tangent but I'm reminded of the quote, "EVs are not for everyone, it only meets the needs of 90% of the population." I have to go back and rewatch that documentary. The EV1 was probably the only GM product that interested me 20+ years ago.

 

When you have built a $24B fortune, come talk to me...otherwise quite frankly youre the one who sounds foolish lol. When somebody like Elon talks, smart people listen, fools throw stones and think they're smarter.

Your own bias is glaring here. The guy is undeniably brilliant, talented and successful. You will never achieve a fraction of what this guy has achieved if you could live 100 lifetimes. I won't either...but I'm not calling the guy a fool

 

A little more back on topic, I think the majority has already accepted EVs, but in the hybrid form. Many hybrids tout the ability to run in all-electric pure EV mode, albeit for limited distances. The driving population just has to get over the range anxiety and prefers to have a gas backup, which is understandable. In essence, many more people have piloted an EV/EV-mode without realizing it, with little if any complaint.

 

yyyyyepppppp!

I'm allowed to have an opinion even if you don't agree with it. And yeah, well you say the same about our also billionaire President and I could call you foolish for thinking that way. How is your portfolio doing? You have money, I'm sure you've made decent returns since 2016.

I don't have to have 25B to say Elon Musk is an idiot who sells garbage cars that have fit and finish no better than a Pinto, if that. And he likes to blow smoke up peoples rears with his stupid ideas...the latest is the submarine. Do people really subscribe to this crap? The company has barely even turned a profit.

 

Lol nobody had any interest in that except Sylvester Stallone. But yeah.

 

But the majority are not driving hybrids. I think it’s like 5%

 

Sure...its about knowing when your opinion is ill informed and of no value to even offer though. I have many opinions on many things, but I only offer them when I know they're of value. To make a declarative statement like "Elon Musk is a fool" is just a ridiculous statement, because you dont know anything about him nor do you know enough about the circumstances surrounding what he's doing or not doing to make a judgement about his character or his abilities. What he's doing may not make sense to you, but have you ever considered that its just over your head? His success is undenyable.

I can have an opinion on the geopolitical situation in the Arab world, but that opinion would be worthless because I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Someone doesn't have to be "a fool" to do foolish things. NOBODY that has achieved that sort of success is "a fool", including Donald Trump.

The issue is when you let your own irrational hatred of a person or a product make you blind to the brilliance of what has been done that is so clear to everybody else, you look completely foolish. Anybody who denies the significance of what Elon Musk has done with Tesla has no clue what they're talking about, its just obvious. Its everywhere. I drive by 3 supercharger stations every day, 5 years ago nobody knew what a supercharger was. Anybody who denies the multiple successes that someone like Elon Musk has had in his life has no idea what they're talking about.

I don't know if a Tesla ran over your dog or something but your hatred of these cars and this man is truly baffling to me. I just dont see anything to hate here. Do they frighten you or something?!?

 

ok folks, lots of WAY off topic posts removed or edited.

no more talk of politics, which billionaires are fools, amazon, and whether tesla will survive.

this is about the cybertruck.

 

Elon Musk is a genius with ***** to make ideas come to life.
Tesla will continue to lead in EVs for The foreseeable future.

Btw he has a company called SpaceX to fall back on that sends rockets to space and used by NASA.
I think Elon will be ok.

 

Yes, I do agree

I do not agree. As other brands start to enter the EV space, the incredible resources from these companies will just outweigh Tesla. Mostly the marketing.

Key word, fall back on. I don't think the Tesla brand will succeed for the long haul.


So going back to Cybertruck...I think the truck is wild. Totally amazing. However, the stock market apparently did not.

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So if Tesla isn’t going to lead in EVs for the foreseeable future, who is going to overtake them?!

 

So who do u see in automotive world having anything close to what Tesla currently offers???

Porsche will have a 4 seat $200k EV that will sell in miniscule #s.
BMW and MB have no dedicated EV that is close to model 3 even. i4 will be the new 4series with EV powertrain.
Jaguar is dead in EV.
Ford or GM? They can’t even do regular engine cars but ppl will buy their EVs haha.
Toyota, Honda etc are 10yrs back in EV tech with nothing on horizon in next 18-24 months.

 

People have no clue how powerful a brand Tesla is. Advertising will not overcome this brand strength and awareness. For most EV = Tesla.

 

It is not about overtaking. All the major brands, as they enter the EV space, their enormous resources will just slow Tesla down. There will be no leader, they will all have a piece of the pie and you will see Telsa struggle to grow. If you give Ford the Cybertruck, (like they requested) they will find a way to spend the money to find the weaknesses and exploit it all via their engineering and marketing.