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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 05:29 PM
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Was watching some of the new reviews out on YouTube. Only one of the reviews mentioned gas mileage, where they were only getting 12mpg around town. I would expect a smaller SUV such as this to get at least mid to upper teens in the city, 25-30 for highway driving. I'm sure for many gas mileage will still be a factor in their purchase, even for a luxury vehicle.
The way some of these "journalists" drive, basically every car could get 10 mpg.
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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
The way some of these "journalists" drive, basically every car could get 10 mpg.
It's more likely from sitting in Seoul traffic, which Charlie from Asian Petrolhead constantly complains about in his reviews.
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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It's more likely from sitting in Seoul traffic, which Charlie from Asian Petrolhead constantly complains about in his reviews.
Not sure which review it came from but in one of the vids you posted, the reviewer literally said lots of "sport" driving and "power test" on the highway. So it's not from sitting and idling in traffic.
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 09:02 PM
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12mpg, that’s LS460 territory LOL
My LS460s were way better than that!
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Not sure which review it came from but in one of the vids you posted, the reviewer literally said lots of "sport" driving and "power test" on the highway. So it's not from sitting and idling in traffic.
If it's not from that video, then there's really no point in referencing it.
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This was a video I believe out of Korea, a woman that reviewed the vehicle and she was driving in what seemed to be pretty normal and moving city traffic.
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If it's not from that video, then there's really no point in referencing it.
the 12.5mpg is from this video around 18:40 in. She does floor the car quite a bit.

the new turbo hyundai/genesis engines do seem to be thirsty when accelerating hard a lot. My new santa fe 2.5T only gets low 20s and i'm not driving it hard.

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Old Apr 1, 2021 | 07:18 AM
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I think a lot of that is a function of small turbos in general. When driven hard their fuel economy benefits fall off quick.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
If it's not from that video, then there's really no point in referencing it.
Just showing that most of these journalists are doing the exact same things, same routes, trying to get the same talking points, and mostly driving them similarly. They're all given the same amount of limited time in which to get all their clips and footage. So they're all going to report similar poor fuel economy.
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My LS460s were way better than that!
A little hyperbole for humors sake. But my car legitimately gets that MPG in winter short trip driving.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
the 12.5mpg is from this video around 18:40 in. She does floor the car quite a bit.

the new turbo hyundai/genesis engines do seem to be thirsty when accelerating hard a lot. My new santa fe 2.5T only gets low 20s and i'm not driving it hard.
The Santa Fe is EPA-rated at 24 MPG combined and 21 in-city, so it sounds like you're hitting the estimate.

I didn't watch her video, but it's obvious that any motoring journalist video is going to cut out the parts that have them waiting in traffic, which tends to be what takes the heaviest toll on fuel economy. The 2.5T's been around for a while now and I've yet to see anyone hit 12 mpg on average with it in any vehicle it's been put in.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Just showing that most of these journalists are doing the exact same things, same routes, trying to get the same talking points, and mostly driving them similarly. They're all given the same amount of limited time in which to get all their clips and footage. So they're all going to report similar poor fuel economy.
The video I posted from Asian Petrolhead was released way back in December. Definitely not from the same press route.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The video I posted from Asian Petrolhead was released way back in December. Definitely not from the same press route.
Ok, that is true in this case, but journalists and reviews often don't drive anything resembling normal life. They are doing a lot of 0-60 type runs to get times and feedback points, going heavy on trying to get comments on passing power, etc. Leave the cars running as they're sitting inside and filming interior features and exterior shots. No information on when that onboard meter was last reset, etc.

Basically saying that journalist MPG results are typically nothing to hold value with.
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Old Apr 1, 2021 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Ok, that is true in this case, but journalists and reviews often don't drive anything resembling normal life. They are doing a lot of 0-60 type runs to get times and feedback points, going heavy on trying to get comments on passing power, etc. Leave the cars running as they're sitting inside and filming interior features and exterior shots. No information on when that onboard meter was last reset, etc.

Basically saying that journalist MPG results are typically nothing to hold value with.
I agree, my response was more to comment on the allegation that the 12 mpg rating came from one of the earlier videos I posted.

I doubt many of these journalists even have the time to reset the odometer to gauge a proper MPG test in these short test drives.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The Santa Fe is EPA-rated at 24 MPG combined and 21 in-city, so it sounds like you're hitting the estimate.
is that the 2.5T?

I didn't watch her video, but it's obvious that any motoring journalist video is going to cut out the parts that have them waiting in traffic, which tends to be what takes the heaviest toll on fuel economy. The 2.5T's been around for a while now and I've yet to see anyone hit 12 mpg on average with it in any vehicle it's been put in.
she was driving the 3.5T GV70.

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I doubt many of these journalists even have the time to reset the odometer to gauge a proper MPG test in these short test drives.
agreed.

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