UAW strike
The volumes might be large, but with such ridiculously low margin a single unexpected expense can put them in the red - for instance a large recall, natural disaster or even a law suit.
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I just did acknowledge the definition. But agreed...moving on.
Are we allowed to post what people in government have to say about the strike (and who these officials support, if they have an opinion)...or is that considered too political? While it could be overshadowed by some other current events, I would not be surprised to see the subject of the strike come up in tonight's Presidential Debate.
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No, you stated your opinion, totally divorced from any legal definition or common understanding, as should be clear from several other responses to your post. That is different. I posted the actual definitions above, from an authoritative source. Here they are again from the Social Security Administration:
https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/re...led-and-unskil
The SSA classifies the different skill levels of jobs into the following categories:
- unskilled
- semi-skilled, and
- skilled.
Unskilled Work
Unskilled work requires little or no judgment to perform simple tasks and can usually be learned in less than a month. Doing unskilled work does not help a person gain work skills. Unskilled work often requires strength, but not always.Semi-skilled Work
Semi-skilled work requires some skills but doesn’t include complex job functions. Semi-skilled work usually requires the ability to remain alert and pay attention to detail and/or protecting against risks. A job that requires hands and feet to be moved quickly (involving coordination and dexterity) to do a repetitive task can be classified as semi-skilled. It usually takes between three and six months to learn a semi-skilled job.Skilled Work
Skilled work requires specific qualifications, the use of judgment, and knowing how to perform mechanical or manual tasks to create a product or material (or provide a service). Skilled work may also include reading specifications, measuring, estimating, and making calculations. Skilled work can include jobs that require a person to work closely with others, or with figures, facts, or ideas that require complex, abstract, or critical thinking. It takes at least six months and often many years to train for and learn a skilled job.
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No, you stated your opinion, totally divorced from any legal definition or common understanding, as should be clear from several other responses to your post. That is different. I posted the actual definitions above, from an authoritative source. Here they are again from the Social Security Administration:
https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/re...led-and-unskil
https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/re...led-and-unskil
Well, do you want to move on, or don't you? What I stated was pretty much in line with the unskilled definition you posted from SSA.
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Unskilled means that it generally takes little to no training and requires little inititive on one's own.
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What does the UAW have over GM? Naked pictures of all the execs? Why doesn't GM tell them to sod off hire non union workers and get on with things. The union can sue GM until the cows come home who cares.
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Free? It triggered the largest auto-industry strike (so far) in the last 50 years, with no end in sight. Mack Trucks, BTW, also has a UAW strike on its hands, but it has been overshadowed by the much larger GM strike.
Layoffs and closings are not exactly feeding. And, as far as GM's hands getting bit, that's what happens when company does dumb things...they get bit.
UAW is biting the hand that feeds them, and its only a matter of time before automakers figure out a way to go non union.
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Note that there is an adjective in front of skilled. Then go back to the SSA definitions above. If you are willing to accept said definitions, I do still welcome you to provide feedback on the ask. If not, we can indeed move on.
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Well, the UAW leadership itself may not exactly smell like a rose.....one has to assume that there is a reason why their offices were raided several weeks ago. But, as I stated earlier, that is not really the gist of the strike.
Public opinion is too much behind the strike for that (roughly 64%, as of the latest poll). That could trigger a boycott of GM vehicles, and GM doesn't want to take that chance (wisely, IMO...they're at least doing one thing right). GM is already suffering in that area, with the Silverado, its best-selling vehicle, having dropped to third place behind the F-150 and Ram 1500, though at least part of that is also the excellence of the new Ram appealing to more people.
Why doesn't GM tell them to sod off hire non union workers and get on with things.
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Public opinion is too much behind the strike for that (roughly 64%, as of the latest poll). That could trigger a boycott of GM vehicles. GM is already suffering in that area, with the Silverado, its best-selling vehicle, having dropped to third place behind the F-150 and Ram 1500, though at least part of that is also the excellence of the new Ram appealing to more people.
This year, Gallup found that 64% of Americans approve of unions, which is among the highest of approval ratings seen in the past 50 years, and a full 10 percentage points above the average approval rating for organized labor since 1967.
It should be noted that this is 64% approval of unions in general, not of the UAW strike. I am curious of what the support is for the strike itself.
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Originally Posted by plex
Is this Strike affecting the Corvette C8 production?
Yep, the Bowling Green Plant is shut down. They also cancelled all the public tours of the plant until further notice.
All - perhaps keep posting for now to any actual developments at this point as all sides have obviously stated what they believe and no minds are going to be changed.
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Thank You.
I have tried to move on more than once, but some refuse.Here's an article that goes over some of the possibilities of what could (?) happen if the two sides continue to butt heads and fail to reach an agreement:
https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...or/3946579002/
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Today's developments.
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UPDATE 10/16/19, 11:30 a.m.: The Associated Press has reported that the United Auto Workers and General Motors have reached a tentative agreement that still needs to go to a vote, first by union committees and then by the entire union membership. The proposed contract is four years in duration. This is a developing story; we will update with details.