I’m not ignoring anything. I did not enter this thread to criticize Tesla, you decided to use them as a bellwether as to whether another automaker could bring an operating system to market within the timeline they communicated. All I did was point out that Tesla missing timelines is not a rare event.

 

If Tesla was a spouse they would be divorced so fast for not keeping promises. haha


 

How many times should we bring up, "Elon said X and it didn't happen" exactly? No exaggeration to say I've heard this 1000 times by now. Is there anything more to add at this point? Is Elon a terrible manager because of this? Should he fired? What is the next progression in this argument. Should Tesla pay people because they didn't keep a "promise"?

Innovation is hard, Elon is wildly optimistic if he wasn't then he would never start anything. He's said as much. In fact he said he doesn't start things because they are hard, does because he thinks they will be easy. I strongly relate to this.
That would be a spouse I would leave before they left me. If I make promises no one else is even going to attempt, put everything I have into making them happen and it takes longer than I expected, well the person that left me over that isn't worth a single second of my time.

 

Well said bro, dam that was good.
That exact situation actually happened to me and that's exactly what I did.

Elon does promise a lot of stuff but it's stuff nobody else has done so that kinda makes him an easy target for naysayers, some maybe be deserved I don't know.
Things always seem to take 2x longer than expected, at least for me they do.

 

Great to hear, life is too short to suffer with someone that doesn't appreciate you.
Elon has no filter, he says what is on his mind this gets him into trouble. I appreciate the honesty, others like to use it as weapon.

 

I'm a bit amused by this line of conversation. I have no animosity towards Tesla, I think their success has been great for the auto industry and world. I didn't even bring up Tesla's timelines when I posted in this thread. You did when you said this:

 

I don’t think taking full credit for the success of OpenAI is honest. The reason for their success is that Elon left and didn’t interfere.

 

You're free to think that AI which was once open and now closed, and now controlled by a few people is the better outcome.

 

Not the point I was making. You’re conflating seperate issues.

You’re saying he is honest, like the time where he publicly smeared a diver who risked his life to save a bunch of kids in a cave?

and you’re ok with that type of ‘honesty’?

got it.

 

There's no such thing as an honest billionaire in my book. I had high hopes for Bill Gates once upon a time, but that evaporated pretty quickly.

Still, love the cars his company builds. And still think he's brilliant

 

That's one of the dumbest things Elon has ever said but how is that lying? Anyway it's irrelevant.

Not sure if this is staged or not, maybe Tesla does need to advertise this nice lady doesn't know what a Tesla is.

 

Let’s get back on topic please

 

GM going with Tesla's connector and will use their charging network?

 

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA some members on the Polestar forum are gonna be pissed LOL . You know what I'm talking about!

 

There is going to be a melt down of monumental proportions.

Confirmed: GM to adopt Tesla's NACS connector and will have access to 12,000 charging stations. First GM vehicle to have connector in 2025.