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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RJLsES
What with the engine moving behind the driver, I'm curious as to how the car will do in NHTSA crash tests. Will there be enough of a 'crumple' zone to resist full front, frontal moderate overlap & small overlap crash encroachment into the cabin?
Mid engined cars are not a new thing lol
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Please stop with the wrong info.

Chevy fixed the cooling issue for 17+ Z06s.
This was only on issue on some 15/16 Z06s with Auto Trans that were being tracked. You make it sound that the car will over heat on a Sunday drive. BTW ZL1 has same motor and has never overheated. Therefore its not being “cheap” but mostly packaging constraints on Z06 equipped with Autos.

I would highly recommend doing Track prep for ANY car especially on hot day.

Having said all that - i do agree Chevy QC is an issue and new C8 will most likely have ton of issues for first few years.
Actually the automatic Z06 still overheats at the track. Did you see this?
But I still disagree with 4tehnguyen, The Z06 is still very reliable daily driver and they definitely did not cut corners. Spend some time in a Z06 and you will see what I mean.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Mid engined cars are not a new thing lol
Just curious as to how this car will do in crash tests compared to front-engined versions.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
is it just me or has the C7 and now C8 have very lackluster wheel designs. Neither has just had that feeling wow those are great looking wheels. The ones in the pics look like some cheap design from the 90s



correct, another reason to be more skeptical. Although the new front is very venty. This car has the potential to be an early adopters nightmare. I'd give it at least 2 years for issues to get worked out.



they touted the Z06 as most track capable corvette yet it overheated and went into limp mode frequently because of engine oil temperatures. There is an enormous thread on C7Z forums stickied about the overheating and potential hacks and fixes (almost 5500 posts and 650k views). Come to find out one of the catalytic converters is right next to the oil cooler, essentially making it an oil heater? The Z06 radiator oddily enough is the same radiator as the regular vette despite the large increase in horsepower and heat load. The radiator also exhausts its hot air right over the power steering rack causing the steering rack to overheat and go into a limp mode. It took them years to add another radiator (which didnt really help) to try to address cooling issues. The real culprit was the engine bay itself just was not getting enough airflow. Also the supercharger is undersized so at higher rpms the supercharger just pumps heat into the engine. Theres a reason why most factory superchargers are 2.3 liters. The Z06's is like 1.8. There is a reason the ZL1 camaro (same engine as Z06) doesnt have any overheating issues with its gaping maw airflow and same with the ZR1 vette. ZR1 has a supercharger greater than the 2.3 liters. None of this includes the 8 speed AT overheating as well in the Z06. Sadly enough the ZR1 still couldnt beat the Viper ring time despite 100 more hp and factory backed funding.
You forgot to mention that the ZL1 and ZR1 have more heat exchangers than the Z06 thus why they don't overheat like the Z06
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RJLsES
Just curious as to how this car will do in crash tests compared to front-engined versions.
I’m sure it will do fine.

In any event I don’t think the Corvette is high volume enough to even need to be crash tested
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I’m sure it will do fine.

In any event I don’t think the Corvette is high volume enough to even need to be crash tested
That might be true. I just typed in Audi R8 and Acura NSX on https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings, and they are not rated
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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That might be true. I just typed in Audi R8 and Acura NSX on https://www.nhtsa.gov/ratings, and they are not rated
C7 Corvette doesn’t seem to be rated either.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
They couldn’t keep existing layout - C7 was maxed out.
There are no front engined supercars for a reason.

I’m much more interested in the C8 than any previous Corvette specifically bec its now mid engine.
i saw them mention that during the reveal and the reaching the limits of the front engine was a BS excuse. So how did the viper still manage to beat the ZR1 on the Ring with 100 less hp, a MANUAL transmission, and without the factory funding its runs, if the front engine layout has run its course. By going mid engine there is no going back, hopefully Chevy understands this.

Originally Posted by Diesel350
You forgot to mention that the ZL1 and ZR1 have more heat exchangers than the Z06 thus why they don't overheat like the Z06
the problem with the Z06 was a lack of air flow, hence why the ZL1 and ZR1 have gaping maws to suck in air, adding more coolers to the Z06 doesnt help when there isnt enough airflow to begin with. Kinda funny the ZR1 just ended up looking like some of the aftermarket mods people were doing years before to fix the Z06 issues.

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nickel and diming begins: Charging $5k for what essentially costs them nothing. Get to choose the final 5 digits or letters of your C8 VIN.

https://jalopnik.com/you-can-customi...000-1836659212
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
i saw them mention that during the reveal and the reaching the limits of the front engine was a BS excuse. So how did the viper still manage to beat the ZR1 on the Ring with 100 less hp, a MANUAL transmission, and without the factory funding its runs, if the front engine layout has run its course. By going mid engine there is no going back, hopefully Chevy understands this.



the problem with the Z06 was a lack of air flow, hence why the ZL1 and ZR1 have gaping maws to suck in air, adding more coolers to the Z06 doesnt help when there isnt enough airflow to begin with. Kinda funny the ZR1 just ended up looking like some of the aftermarket mods people were doing years before to fix the Z06 issues.
All you have to do is add more efficient heat exhangers to the Z06. Problem solved.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
nickel and diming begins: Charging $5k for what essentially costs them nothing. Get to choose the final 5 digits or letters of your C8 VIN.

https://jalopnik.com/you-can-customi...000-1836659212
Its pretty neat to see Chevrolet let owners do this.
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all seasons for base model. Really think youll be under 3 sec 0-60 with all seasons?

https://news.yahoo.com/why-highest-p...162300749.html

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All you have to do is add more efficient heat exhangers to the Z06. Problem solved.
heat exchangers need airflow to function. Which is why C7Z owners cut more air inlets into their front bumpers to accommodate new exchangers.


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all seasons for base model. Really think youll be under 3 sec 0-60 with all seasons?

https://news.yahoo.com/why-highest-p...162300749.html
This is a brand new tire. Chief engineer says their customers want to drive their Corvettes in three seasons. Sounds like a smart move to me.
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This is a brand new tire. Chief engineer says their customers want to drive their Corvettes in three seasons. Sounds like a smart move to me.
does this "chief engineer" know summer tires are perfectly fine to drive in spring and fall? These arent snow tires and anyone who wants to drive it in a cold winter will already be getting a set of snow wheels and tires.
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Old Jul 24, 2019 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
all seasons for base model. Really think youll be under 3 sec 0-60 with all seasons?

https://news.yahoo.com/why-highest-p...162300749.html
Nope. And you wouldn't be under 3 seconds without the rest of the Z51 package either, summer tires or no--you also need the performance exhaust and the shorter gearing. But the design target for the AS tires is 1.0g. They have already achieved 0.95g, and are still doing final suspension tuning. For reference, the C6 Z51 running on summer-only rubber hit 0.98g, and the C8 Z51 is expected to be at 1.03g on its PS4S. So it's not like this thing is going to handle like a Camry just because it has AS tires.
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