The Lincoln Town Car Was the Last True American Luxury Sedan
06-04-19, 10:05 AM
#46
Lexus Fanatic
Yes, both bit the dust in 2011...the DTS in May, and the Town Car in August. So, the TC was technically the last remaining one...but only by an inconsequential factor of only a few months.
Also, unlike Cadillac, Lincoln corrupted the name of the Town Car by later using it on limo-spec versions of the (IMO) awkward and ugly MKT SUV.
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-04-19 at 10:09 AM.
06-04-19, 01:03 PM
#47
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06-04-19, 01:31 PM
#49
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I preferred the Town Car's RWD setup to the DTS, The Devilles of that era didn't ride all that great either.
06-04-19, 03:08 PM
#50
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06-04-19, 03:19 PM
#51
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Back years ago I raced a Police Interceptor, my buddy was off duty and we used a closed, isolated road (that's all I'm gonna say lol) to do a few 0-80 runs.
This was back when I drove an Infiniti I35 which was quick but not a truly fast car.
He got left in the dust. Keep in mind my said 255hp Infiniti did 0-60 in about 7 seconds flat, and also was saddled with a 4spd automatic with mediocre gearing at best.
This was back when I drove an Infiniti I35 which was quick but not a truly fast car.
He got left in the dust. Keep in mind my said 255hp Infiniti did 0-60 in about 7 seconds flat, and also was saddled with a 4spd automatic with mediocre gearing at best.
having a long geared 4 speed also really hurts it, 2nd goes up to about 85 and 1st is done at like 45, so when you step on it at 40 you have like another 25 mph to climb before the crappy engine is making decent power again
if you guys did like a 60-120 run it would've been closer
06-04-19, 04:12 PM
#53
Lexus Test Driver
truthfully the town car would probably benefit from fwd since its buyers will never exploit the benefits of rwd, and rear passengers would have more room
06-04-19, 06:05 PM
#54
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People might have forgotten the Lincoln Town Car's history. It was a trim for the Continental and then got its own brand name. JFK's adminstration used the Town Car and so did adminstrations of the 1960s and 1970s. It eventually got its "ole foggies" rep because, that's who loved these and drove them around at glacial speeds on freeways and neighborhood senior's dances.
And fun trivia: In the Seinfeld episode "The Limo", it's a late 80s "square" Lincoln Town Car that the characters end up in. It's a stretch version so there's even more room in the back as Costanaza and Jerry figure out what kind of shennigans they got themselves into as they manuever a way to get to a Chicago Bulls game.
And of course, Larry David, the co-creator of Seinfeld, did Curb Your Enthusiam - a hilarious single cam sitcom about his buffoonery. In the episode titled "Shaq", he ends up tripping Shaquille O' Neal at a LA Lakers championship game. The resulting furor drives away Larry's visiting in laws who quickly escape by tossing their bags into none other than a Mercury Grande Marquis which his father in law owns, as they flee his driveway.
And fun trivia: In the Seinfeld episode "The Limo", it's a late 80s "square" Lincoln Town Car that the characters end up in. It's a stretch version so there's even more room in the back as Costanaza and Jerry figure out what kind of shennigans they got themselves into as they manuever a way to get to a Chicago Bulls game.
And of course, Larry David, the co-creator of Seinfeld, did Curb Your Enthusiam - a hilarious single cam sitcom about his buffoonery. In the episode titled "Shaq", he ends up tripping Shaquille O' Neal at a LA Lakers championship game. The resulting furor drives away Larry's visiting in laws who quickly escape by tossing their bags into none other than a Mercury Grande Marquis which his father in law owns, as they flee his driveway.
06-04-19, 06:32 PM
#55
Lexus Fanatic
The RWD and frame-rail construction, though are two factors that contributed to its durability. Though it is not unusual to see FWD sedans from Toyota and Honda go the kind of miles you can out on a RWD Crown Vic or Town Car, it IS rare from FWD sedans of American design.
06-04-19, 06:56 PM
#56
Lexus Test Driver
And of course, Larry David, the co-creator of Seinfeld, did Curb Your Enthusiam - a hilarious single cam sitcom about his buffoonery. In the episode titled "Shaq", he ends up tripping Shaquille O' Neal at a LA Lakers championship game. The resulting furor drives away Larry's visiting in laws who quickly escape by tossing their bags into none other than a Mercury Grande Marquis which his father in law owns, as they flee his driveway.
06-05-19, 09:18 PM
#57
Lexus Champion
the CVPI is comically slow, even without the extra weight of police equipment and extra air drag the sirens on top create
having a long geared 4 speed also really hurts it, 2nd goes up to about 85 and 1st is done at like 45, so when you step on it at 40 you have like another 25 mph to climb before the crappy engine is making decent power again
if you guys did like a 60-120 run it would've been closer
having a long geared 4 speed also really hurts it, 2nd goes up to about 85 and 1st is done at like 45, so when you step on it at 40 you have like another 25 mph to climb before the crappy engine is making decent power again
if you guys did like a 60-120 run it would've been closer
About the final DTS, I always liked it, even though it was based on a FWD LaCrosse platform. By then they finally had the Northstar ironed out.
06-05-19, 09:47 PM
#58
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No. The DTS was based on the larger FWD Lucerne platform. At that time, the Lacrosse was still a mid-sized platform. It did not become full-sized until 2017.
06-06-19, 10:20 AM
#59
Lexus Champion
Ah, gotcha. Nice catch. Not that there's anything wrong with a FWD GM platform, but you can tell a difference in dynamics with a RWD car. My mother's Buick Enclave (not really germane to this discussion at all) you can seriously tell it's being pulled rather than pushed. I much prefer a RWD setup.
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