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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
True, that's a stiff price for a car that size, but no M model from BMW comes cheap. Neither do AMG models from Mercedes. It is a simple fact of life.
It's not really an M model. BMW's use of M550, or M340, pr X3 M40 or M135 isn't a real "M". It's like how Lexus uses F-Sport vs F. It's just branding for a package with mostly styling enhancements.
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Are you referring to the M-Sport versions? Granted, they are not full-M versions (they usually lack the M powerplants)...still, they themselves can also have relatively stiff prices.
BMW is phasing out M-Sport trims in favor of this branding, which mostly applies to the larger engine option in any series line.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Unfortunately most buyers have no clue about FWD vs RWD as long as it has AWD! Lol

BMW went mainstream to chase sales volume. At least the real M cars are still only RWD based platforms.
Not true anymore, M5 is AWD and the new M3 will be AWD.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Not true anymore, M5 is AWD and the new M3 will be AWD.
But the M5 and M3, even with AWD, are still RWD based/longitudinally mounted engines, right?
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tex2670
It's not really an M model. BMW's use of M550, or M340, pr X3 M40 or M135 isn't a real "M". It's like how Lexus uses F-Sport vs F. It's just branding for a package with mostly styling enhancements.

BMW is phasing out M-Sport trims in favor of this branding, which mostly applies to the larger engine option in any series line.
This isn't true either, Lexus F-Sport isn't comparable to an M550 or M340. Lexus is using the same engines in the F-Sport as their base models. F-sport is more cosmetic and handling stuff. M340 and M550, as well as MB AMG43's, are more tweeners between the base and the true M or AMG lines and have completely different (i.e. more powerful) engines than the base model so it isn't just styling.
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Old Jun 27, 2019 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
But the M5 and M3, even with AWD, are still RWD based/longitudinally mounted engines, right?
From my understanding that is true but so are the M variants such as the M340 and M550.
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Originally Posted by bagwell
Looks ok, but I'm guessing the M135i xDrive with run in the high 50s, which is unacceptable in my book.
Since it won’t be in the u.s. we don’t know what the price would have been, but regardless, i think your ‘book’ was written 2 decades ago what do you consider reasonably priced these days for what you get (new)?
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That looks to be the exact same interior as the new 330/340
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