AMG or not AMG?
#1
Lexus Test Driver
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AMG or not AMG?
i'm sure nobody really cares about this too much, but does it make anyone else bummed out how like every other mercedes these days is "an AMG"?
as far as i see it, a mercedes is only worthy of having 2 numbers after the letters (S63, CLS63) and an AMG badge if it follows the one man one engine AMG "philosophy" and has an engine assembled by a single technician in the affalterbach factory
seeing an AMG used to be a rare and exciting event (and still is depending on the model), but with all the GLC43s and C43s going around (which until recently was called the C450) it's just like meh there goes another one... mercedes is just using the AMG name to increase profits since they know people will pay more to have their car say AMG on it a bunch
just to be clear, i'm not saying i have a problem with the cars themselves or the people who buy them, it's with mercedes making seeing the AMG badge not something i can get excited about seeing anymore... were i to get a C43, i'd take off the AMG badge and add a 0 after the 43 since i'm not a hypocrite yo
ok that's the end of my extremely 1st world problems for now lol
as far as i see it, a mercedes is only worthy of having 2 numbers after the letters (S63, CLS63) and an AMG badge if it follows the one man one engine AMG "philosophy" and has an engine assembled by a single technician in the affalterbach factory
seeing an AMG used to be a rare and exciting event (and still is depending on the model), but with all the GLC43s and C43s going around (which until recently was called the C450) it's just like meh there goes another one... mercedes is just using the AMG name to increase profits since they know people will pay more to have their car say AMG on it a bunch
just to be clear, i'm not saying i have a problem with the cars themselves or the people who buy them, it's with mercedes making seeing the AMG badge not something i can get excited about seeing anymore... were i to get a C43, i'd take off the AMG badge and add a 0 after the 43 since i'm not a hypocrite yo
ok that's the end of my extremely 1st world problems for now lol
#2
Lexus Fanatic
That's what having money will do. The economy is doing well, people are spending on vehicles, and, yes, even up-level vehicles, today, are going out the door. This is especially so in the D.C. area and its traditionally recession-resistant economy. Long Island, where you are at, is also an area known for high incomes.
Keep one thing in mind, though. Most of the AMGs (or probably anything else with the three-pointed star on them) are probably leased rather than bought. Leasing, even in high-income areas, is basically what keeps luxury-nameplate auto dealers in business.
Keep one thing in mind, though. Most of the AMGs (or probably anything else with the three-pointed star on them) are probably leased rather than bought. Leasing, even in high-income areas, is basically what keeps luxury-nameplate auto dealers in business.
#5
Lexus Test Driver
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well thanks for the replies but neither of you really addressed my "complaint", which is essentially should a mercedes that doesn't have an engine assembled by a single affalterbach technician still follow the AMG naming and badge scheme
#6
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Is it indeed fact that all AMGs had hand built engines until recently?
#7
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Ford, some years ago, used to install Cobra Mustang V8s that had a Technician Hand-Built signature on them. It was pretty much a marketing feature.....those engines weren't necessarily any better than assembly-line engines, and, in fact, often did not produce the full-rated advertised HP on the dyno. Ford had to answer a lot of questions on that one.
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#8
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such as in this video:
doesnt essentially mean the car is "better" for having the engine assembled in this way, just that it's "an AMG"
#9
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yes, if the car had 2 numbers in its name and was officially designated "AMG" that meant it could only have an engine hand assembled by one technician
such as in this video:
http://youtu.be/Pc3sxQCq0KY
doesnt essentially mean the car is "better" for having the engine assembled in this way, just that it's "an AMG"
such as in this video:
http://youtu.be/Pc3sxQCq0KY
doesnt essentially mean the car is "better" for having the engine assembled in this way, just that it's "an AMG"
What example of a non AMG with 3 numbers is there?
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#10
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OK, then, if the vehicle comes with an AMG warranty and certification, then, yes, the engine, IMO, can have an AMG badge on it without some Technician putting his or her John Hancock-signature on it. I see no problem with it.
Ford, some years ago, used to install Cobra Mustang V8s that had a Technician Hand-Built signature on them. It was pretty much a marketing feature.....those engines weren't necessarily any better than assembly-line engines, and, in fact, often did not produce the full-rated advertised HP on the dyno. Ford had to answer a lot of questions on that one.
Ford, some years ago, used to install Cobra Mustang V8s that had a Technician Hand-Built signature on them. It was pretty much a marketing feature.....those engines weren't necessarily any better than assembly-line engines, and, in fact, often did not produce the full-rated advertised HP on the dyno. Ford had to answer a lot of questions on that one.
the engines in the 43 and 53 models have about as much to do with AMG as the new supra engine has to do with toyota
#11
Lexus Fanatic
Are all corvette engines hand built?
#12
Lexus Test Driver
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not too unlike putting a bmw engine into a car and calling it a toyota supra
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#14
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and what is the heritage of Supra?
Was not aware. I think the Bowling Green location is very important. If that changes, then not a real corvette.
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