AMG or not AMG?
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if i remember correctly, there actually used to be an SL73 AMG, which used a 7.3 liter V12 that went on to power a little known car called the pagani zonda!
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I’m looking at a C43 once my IS lease is up in a couple months. I know it’s a “fake” AMG but I don’t really care. It looks good and it’s pretty powerful for what it is. No different than BMW with their M packages. A friend of mine has a X3 M40i and although not a true M that little SUV flies and it’s pretty badass. Too bad Lexus doesn’t have a IS-F to compete. If they did I would have considered staying with Lexus. I definitely can’t wait to get rid of my IS350, it’s a turd.
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I’m looking at a C43 once my IS lease is up in a couple months. I know it’s a “fake” AMG but I don’t really care. It looks good and it’s pretty powerful for what it is. No different than BMW with their M packages. A friend of mine has a X3 M40i and although not a true M that little SUV flies and it’s pretty badass. Too bad Lexus doesn’t have a IS-F to compete. If they did I would have considered staying with Lexus. I definitely can’t wait to get rid of my IS350, it’s a turd.
like i said my grievances are very petty, i only wish they'd continue calling it a C450 so i could feel better about having one and the AMG legacy remains untarnished
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... turd seems a bit harsh lol, i think it's a great mix of styling, performance, efficiency, comfort, reliability, and a lovely high rpm sound with a nice linear power delivery
like i said my grievances are very petty, i only wish they'd continue calling it a C450 so i could feel better about having one and the AMG legacy remains untarnished
like i said my grievances are very petty, i only wish they'd continue calling it a C450 so i could feel better about having one and the AMG legacy remains untarnished
LOL, fair enough. My grievances are pretty petty as well with the IS, for the rated power it isn't that quick and since it isn't that quick I would have expected better gas mileage as I average 18 mpg. I have never had a BMW, Audit or Mercedes so I am excited about possibly getting a C43 "Fake AMG" but also want to check out the S4 and 340. I would have liked to get a real C63 AMG but I want AWD and they lease terribly and I don't want to own the car as I have no experience with the brand and get tired of cars rather quickly.
Last edited by patgilm; Apr 17, 2019 at 07:34 AM.
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It's all about respect. I don't own an AMG, and may never own one. But I respect the badge.
Just because Mercedes Benz calls a C430 AMG an AMG, it has badges, and has very respectable numbers, it is not an AMG. Not only do I not own a C430 AMG, but I can't afford one, so it's not being a snob. It's being real. Just as BMW M sport cars, are not M's. But at least BMW does not "mask" or try to "disguise" such cars. Go to their website, M cars are in their own section.
No 6, no AMG.
I get that not everyone feels the same, but I want to be who I am, not someone else, and I rarely try to pose or fake people out. Excuse me now, the Cos Cob Country club is calling, probably to admit our family into the club, I gotta run
edit they have not decided as they have not confirmed my MBA from **** University. I hope we are not disqualified as I actually got it at The ********** of ***********, but **** seemed more impressive when they interviewed us.
Just because Mercedes Benz calls a C430 AMG an AMG, it has badges, and has very respectable numbers, it is not an AMG. Not only do I not own a C430 AMG, but I can't afford one, so it's not being a snob. It's being real. Just as BMW M sport cars, are not M's. But at least BMW does not "mask" or try to "disguise" such cars. Go to their website, M cars are in their own section.
No 6, no AMG.
I get that not everyone feels the same, but I want to be who I am, not someone else, and I rarely try to pose or fake people out. Excuse me now, the Cos Cob Country club is calling, probably to admit our family into the club, I gotta run
edit they have not decided as they have not confirmed my MBA from **** University. I hope we are not disqualified as I actually got it at The ********** of ***********, but **** seemed more impressive when they interviewed us.
Last edited by Johnhav430; Apr 17, 2019 at 07:25 AM.
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Yeah, it's a shame they don't think of a different name for these mid-level performance models other than just "AMG". Maybe "AMG-line" or "AMG Sport" (which was the old name) would be overselling it less. It's like my friend's 335i - it's not an "M335i", but it has the "Dynamic Handling Package" which still sounds pretty sporty to me, without falsely proclaiming itself to be an M-car.
That being said, BMW is following suit now, with the "M" badge being prepended to almost everything.
That being said, BMW is following suit now, with the "M" badge being prepended to almost everything.
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Yeah, it's a shame they don't think of a different name for these mid-level performance models other than just "AMG". Maybe "AMG-line" or "AMG Sport" (which was the old name) would be overselling it less. It's like my friend's 335i - it's not an "M335i", but it has the "Dynamic Handling Package" which still sounds pretty sporty to me, without falsely proclaiming itself to be an M-car.
That being said, BMW is following suit now, with the "M" badge being prepended to almost everything.
That being said, BMW is following suit now, with the "M" badge being prepended to almost everything.
Just as a C430 or whatever, will never be AMG. That doesn't make it a bad car, they still have excellent numbers. And it is human nature to wanna be something else, or feel the grass is greener. So if you want to be kind, you can let an M Sport or fake AMG owner feel they have the real thing. What do you lose? You're not looking to talk down at people or act this way or that, right?
But back to the original question, many of us do know what a real AMG is, and what is not.
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I believe in the pecking order. I have a 335i, N54. There is absolutely, positively, nothing, that I can do to it, to make it a M car. I can swap out the suspension, I can spend only $600 and it will have 380 HP at the wheels (hey this would have been good on a 2007 car), I can change the floor mats and put Hello Kitty on the rear deck. It's not an M, and never will be.
Just as a C430 or whatever, will never be AMG. That doesn't make it a bad car, they still have excellent numbers. And it is human nature to wanna be something else, or feel the grass is greener. So if you want to be kind, you can let an M Sport or fake AMG owner feel they have the real thing. What do you lose? You're not looking to talk down at people or act this way or that, right?
But back to the original question, many of us do know what a real AMG is, and what is not.
Just as a C430 or whatever, will never be AMG. That doesn't make it a bad car, they still have excellent numbers. And it is human nature to wanna be something else, or feel the grass is greener. So if you want to be kind, you can let an M Sport or fake AMG owner feel they have the real thing. What do you lose? You're not looking to talk down at people or act this way or that, right?
But back to the original question, many of us do know what a real AMG is, and what is not.
BTW, I really like the 335i. Seems like a very well-rounded car - quick but also very smooth in all areas. Hopefully you don't actually put Hello Kitty on it.
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