First step away from ICE - picked up a Model 3
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Probably a nice car, don't know, we are months away to see them on the road. Whatever, the only car that could interest me away from ICE would be this one :
... and only if Honda manages to get this initial design right to the stores. A Toyota Supra-ish readaptation of those line will not do it for me.
... and only if Honda manages to get this initial design right to the stores. A Toyota Supra-ish readaptation of those line will not do it for me.
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Congrats on the Model 3. Whatever makes the wife happy, right?
Personally - I wouldn't get a Tesla Model 3 because I will never like the interior... I just can't like the interior at all - especially since the car cost so much with options. However - I do think EV is the future. The only way I will get my oil *** out of a ICE car is when the Audi E-Tron GT comes out.
Personally - I wouldn't get a Tesla Model 3 because I will never like the interior... I just can't like the interior at all - especially since the car cost so much with options. However - I do think EV is the future. The only way I will get my oil *** out of a ICE car is when the Audi E-Tron GT comes out.
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Found the first thing I don't like about the car. Doors/trunk really need to be slammed to close properly. More annoying is that because of the way that the door handles work, there will almost always be a handprint in that general door handle area. Some more gratuitous photos after I got it back from the detailer Wrapped the car in STEK film.
thought about doing ceramic (mainly so car wash is easier for me) but after couple weeks of driving? meh i think i gave up.
yup the gs was a lease and it's coming up in feb, so i cut it short and traded it in. previous two gs were both just daily for me so can't say i had much connections with them haha
thanks man!
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The wife's CX-5 was getting up there in years so we started shopping around. Her only criteria were electric or hybrid, only marginally bigger (or smaller) than her CX-5, and blue. NXh is old, RX/MDX/Highlander hybrids were too big, and RAV4 hybrid isn't available yet. Our decision making process was also sped up because Tesla's tax rebate is getting cut in half at the end of this year.
congrats and enjoy your car!
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Tesla definitely the ‘cool kids’ car right now.
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No...with all due respect, your statement is incorrect. While I could have phrased my statement better, and it obviously does not explain all of the reasons Tesla does not spend money on advertising (in fact, there are many), it is a fact that Tesla does spend a lot on dealer facilities that are normally run by private-franchise money. That's not me, or my fail......that is simply the way they operate.
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Tesla doesn't advertise because they don't need to.
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No...with all due respect, your statement is incorrect. While I could have phrased my statement better, and it obviously does not explain all of the reasons Tesla does not spend money on advertising (in fact, there are many), it is a fact that Tesla does spend a lot on dealer facilities that are normally run by private-franchise money. That's not me, or my fail......that is simply the way they operate.
https://adage.com/article/cmo-strate...tising/310008/
there's no need to advertise if demand so far outstrips your ability to supply... now that they've caught up a lot with the '3', they'll likely do something, but i'd expect it to continue to be unconventional, like youtube videos, social media, not wasteful tv and print ads.
also about dealer franchises - they can only do what they do through profits of selling cars, not out of the goodness of their heart, and that profit is revenue traditional car makers don't get, so because tesla gets the WHOLE PIE when selling instead of a piece of it, they can afford to make their own showrooms, but the economic models are different beyond that, with tesla investing in a charging network which customers pay to use, a model traditional car makers simply don't have... so there's so many differences.
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Probably a nice car, don't know, we are months away to see them on the road. Whatever, the only car that could interest me away from ICE would be this one :
... and only if Honda manages to get this initial design right to the stores. A Toyota Supra-ish readaptation of those line will not do it for me.
... and only if Honda manages to get this initial design right to the stores. A Toyota Supra-ish readaptation of those line will not do it for me.
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True. They are almost synonymous with electric cars right now regardless of all the other offerings. The internet itself is all the exposure and word of mouth they need.
One observation about the current Model 3 situation is the oddity that that inventory is piling up but they still can't build the $35K model that the masses are waiting for. Yes, it's because Tesla would actually lose money on these, but how long can they go along just building these overpriced ones. The idea that you can spend $80K on a compact-midsize sedan is nuts, although most are around $50-60K. I do find the 3 compelling but not for more than $35K.
One observation about the current Model 3 situation is the oddity that that inventory is piling up but they still can't build the $35K model that the masses are waiting for. Yes, it's because Tesla would actually lose money on these, but how long can they go along just building these overpriced ones. The idea that you can spend $80K on a compact-midsize sedan is nuts, although most are around $50-60K. I do find the 3 compelling but not for more than $35K.
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No...with all due respect, your statement is incorrect. While I could have phrased my statement better, and it obviously does not explain all of the reasons Tesla does not spend money on advertising (in fact, there are many), it is a fact that Tesla does spend a lot on dealer facilities that are normally run by private-franchise money. That's not me, or my fail......that is simply the way they operate.
Tesla doesn't advertise because they don't have to. Anybody who might purchase a Tesla knows what Tesla is and their selling proposition to that consumer is so strong, they don't need advertising to reach that consumer. The proof is in the sales numbers, they sell all the Teslas they can make.
As for the statement that Tesla has LESS money available because they don't have a franchise dealer chain makes no sense whatsoever. Having another person in the chain of profit reduces profit for the end recipient, doesn't increase profit. The car gets sold to the consumer in the end, logically if there's no dealer and franchisee to take a portion of the profit from the sale of that car, the manufacturer makes more profit. Yes there are costs Tesla has in selling the car that would be absorbed by a franchisee, but if those costs were higher than the profit available, nobody would buy car dealership franchises in the first place.