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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Yeah I'm not refuting that, but to simply slather a Bentayga, which is built to a level of quality and finish that VW would never see, as a "fancy Bentley" is a pretty obtuse statement.
Agreed.

The Lamborghini Urus is also built off of that platform.
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This is a bit off topic, but here's a good example of the differences between Bentley, Audi, and VW:


1. Bentley Mulsanne

Dark-stained, 0.02-inch-thick burl walnut on solid walnut backing. Pleasingly hefty.

Fun Fact: Bentley typically uses 24 veneers sliced from the root ball of a single 80-year-old tree to ring a Mulsanne cabin in wood.

2. Volkswagen Passat SEL

Not wood. Printed burl walnut appliqué on the finest plastic. Flimsy. Still costs $104 at your local parts counter.

Fun Fact: Made in America. U-S-A! U-S-A!

3. Audi S8

Velvet-brown fine-grain ash veneer on magnesium-alloy backing. Light. Stiff. And the same 0.02-inch thickness as the Bentley's burl walnut.

Fun Fact: This wood trim piece is half an ounce lighter than the same part rendered in Audi's copper-twill carbon fiber.



I would expect similar differences between Toyota and Lexus (from VW to Audi). And similarly from Hyundai to Genesis (although none of them currently share platforms, and they intend to keep it that way).


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Originally Posted by pbm317


I would expect similar differences between Toyota and Lexus (from VW to Audi). And similarly from Hyundai to Genesis (although none of them currently share platforms, and they intend to keep it that way).
No idea if true or not. But I think the G70/80/90 are shared platforms with the Stinger, K9 and K900
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
No idea if true or not. But I think the G70/80/90 are shared platforms with the Stinger, K9 and K900
I said specifically Hyundai and Genesis have no platforms shared. Stinger and K900 are quite premium, even above some Lexus brand offerings.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
I said specifically Hyundai and Genesis have no platforms shared. Stinger and K900 are quite premium, even above some Lexus brand offerings.
Oh right...you did say Hyundai
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Yeah I'm not refuting that, but to simply slather a Bentayga, which is built to a level of quality and finish that VW would never see, as a "fancy Bentley" is a pretty obtuse statement.
I see my comment ruffled your feathers quite a bit. Was not intended to. The Bentayga is off the same platform as the Touareg. VW has some pretty impressive stuff out there, I think one can get the same TT V8 diesel or TTV8 petrol motor in the Touareg as well as the Bentayga. The body is built by VW. So are the engines. There is no doubt that the Bentayga interior looks sensational, VW went they want to can very good, evidence such as the past Phaeton, or the current Touareg come to mind.
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Agreeo

The Lamborghini Urus is also built off of that platform.
So is the Volkwagen Touraeg

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I see my comment ruffled your feathers quite a bit. Was not intended to. The Bentayga is off the same platform as the Touareg. VW has some pretty impressive stuff out there, I think one can get the same TT V8 diesel or TTV8 petrol motor in the Touareg as well as the Bentayga. The body is built by VW. So are the engines. There is no doubt that the Bentayga interior looks sensational, VW went they want to can very good, evidence such as the past Phaeton, or the current Touareg come to mind.
It's not that it ruffles any feathers, it's that such broad sweeping generalizations are extremely poorly founded.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
It's not that it ruffles any feathers, it's that such broad sweeping generalizations are extremely poorly founded.
The Bentayga is a high end VW sorry if you are offended, maybe very high end VW is a better way to say it...Just like a Lexus is a high end Toyota or how a Genesis is a high end Hyundai......Owned by VW, powertrain by VW as seen in the Touareg and body produced and manufactured by VW....body panels are even painted in VW facility....There was a time when the Bentley brand was using BMW powertrains...I don't see what is poorly founded...The only thing Bentley does for Bentayga is put the interior together and some assembly together....vastly different to when they were pre Rolls Royce days. I think their new Continental is far less VW and closer to what Bentley was from a heritage perspective. I believe all the parts still come from Germany but their W12 is still handcrafted in England.

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Originally Posted by Motorola
To be fair, the Bentayga does sit on the same platform and share more than a few other components with the VW Touareg...
Well the original 911 was just a VW Bug, right....?
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Maybe mods should merge this thread with the 2020 Highlander thread. Both threads veer off topic so often that they might as well be merged lol
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
So is the Volkwagen Touraeg
Yeah we heard you the first couple times.
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Originally Posted by COOLIS
Went for a drive today and saw the Palisade next to a Bentayga. Thought it was an interesting pair. Doubt anyone would cross-shop the two, but also surprised how upscale the Palisade looks.


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Maybe mods should merge this thread with the 2020 Highlander thread. Both threads veer off topic so often that they might as well be merged lol
I dunno. The picture posted had the Palisade and Bentayga in the same photo.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I dunno. The picture posted had the Palisade and Bentayga in the same photo.
Where is the Touraeg? Urus? G70/80/90? Stinger, K9, K900? 911? None of those are in the picture, are they?

You're talking about Bentley history in a Palisade thread. If that's not off-topic, I don't know what is.
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Originally Posted by sm1ke
Where is the Touraeg? Urus? G70/80/90? Stinger, K9, K900? 911? None of those are in the picture, are they?

You're talking about Bentley history in a Palisade thread. If that's not off-topic, I don't know what is.
You are 100% right.....back on Palisade.
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Originally Posted by sm1ke
Where is the Touraeg? Urus? G70/80/90? Stinger, K9, K900? 911? None of those are in the picture, are they?

You're talking about Bentley history in a Palisade thread. If that's not off-topic, I don't know what is.
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