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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 12:45 PM
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Hahaha. Looks like a filter type of marine animal. Makes me smile whenever I see that face. Full clown car.
Yup, that grill ruins the look of an otherwise nice looking car.
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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Yup, that grill ruins the look of an otherwise nice looking car.
I actually don't mind the Camry TRD because it's such a ubiquitous vehicle. I guess anything to differentiate itself from the masses. I've had more aggressive Camry and Accord drivers play with me than any other car brand. I can respect driving the car to its maximum capability. They are pretty slow though
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 12:56 PM
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It's not difficult to see what part of the Avalon gets the most ribbing.

It really is astonishing how much attention you give the Avalon. Current and past generations.
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It's a face only Jill can love unless she actually dislikes the Avalon face
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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It's a face only Jill can love unless she actually dislikes the Avalon face
I don't have a problem with it. It looks far better in person than it does in pics. There was a time when Toyota was equal with boring, not the case anymore. How well has the Avalon peers done? Cadenza, LaCrosse or Impala..more sedate styling, pleasing to the masses...but cancelled.

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Old Aug 15, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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The Lexus ES is really the car that dominates that segment. The Avalon is a little cheaper but not enough to have clear boundaries. I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota kills it off someday. I rarely see any in a sea of Lexus ES and other luxury marquees.
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 01:57 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota kills it off someday. .
More than likely it will be canned. I think they will move the name to become a high end trim level of the next Camry or we will see a cross over like the UX still named Avalon.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The Lexus ES is really the car that dominates that segment. The Avalon is a little cheaper but not enough to have clear boundaries. I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota kills it off someday. I rarely see any in a sea of Lexus ES and other luxury marquees.
I agree. Similar to Hyundai axing the Azera a few years ago. Surprised the Kia Cadenza is still around as well.

Very close base prices
$35,650 - Avalon
$39,900 - ES350
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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$35,650 - Avalon
$39,900 - ES350
I think Avalon and ES go hand in hand. Most Toyota buyers looking to move up to Lexus probably look at the Avalon and compare. Just like LC or LX.
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I think Avalon and ES go hand in hand. Most Toyota buyers looking to move up to Lexus probably look at the Avalon and compare. Just like LC or LX.
Perhaps a bit of cross shopping but they sell enough ES's to justify it's corporate cousin Avalon right now.
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Sales thru July are ES 28,940 (+18%) and Avalon 17,562 (-20%). It seems like the Avalon will be around for a while anyway.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Sales thru July are ES 28,940 (+18%) and Avalon 17,562 (-20%). It seems like the Avalon will be around for a while anyway.
Where are they hiding?? I never see new Avalon's unless it's on a dealer lot
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Sales thru July are ES 28,940 (+18%) and Avalon 17,562 (-20%). It seems like the Avalon will be around for a while anyway.
These two cars are pretty much the same car, I can't see the Avalon being cancelled right now as it takes up volume on the assembly line.
Old Aug 15, 2019 | 04:18 PM
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btw, Avalon just got introduced to the Chinese market... should be good for another 80k-100k sales per year


Old Aug 15, 2019 | 04:21 PM
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btw, Avalon just got introduced to the Chinese market... should be good for another 80k-100k sales per year

Good find. Thanks for posting this. I think China will embrace the new Avalon very much. The Asian Dragon.



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