Toyota Camry TRD and Avalon TRD
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Thanks for the response. I am just so tired of the constant negativity, here is a moment where Toyota is offering a soft rider, touring model and now a so called performance model. It should be considered a good thing, as people on here are supposed to be enthusiasts. What has GM or Ford done in this segment, they have threatened to kill their models or already made the announcement that their sedans will be phased out. Would be nice to read some positive comments from the members for once.
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I count 12 negative comments to 6 positive and not accounting for yours or mmarshalls and strooks exchanges because those were just back/forths between posters advocating a position. How is that "constant negativity"? GM tried the Chevy Impala SS and even the Pontiac G8. Ford still has the AWD 325 hp/380 lb/ft Fusion Sport. Chrysler almost owns this particular niche with the Charger RT/GT with Hemi options and the 300C.
GM today announced they will axe the CT6 plug in for the USA. Well done GM. At least Toyota is trying
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Its more negativity on an overall whole, thanks for counting. 12-6 negative. . And you are right. GM tried it. Ford is threatening killing their sedans. And Chrysler I don’t follow. It is interesting to see Toyota do something like this.
GM today announced they will axe the CT6 plug in for the USA. Well done GM. At least Toyota is trying
GM today announced they will axe the CT6 plug in for the USA. Well done GM. At least Toyota is trying
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I am just so tired of the constant negativity, here is a moment where Toyota is offering a soft rider, touring model and now a so called performance model. It should be considered a good thing, as people on here are supposed to be enthusiasts.
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The 2020 Toyota Avalon TRD Starts at $43,255
According to a wrinkle in the Matrix, or space-time, or—in actuality—a prematurely published online configurator on Toyota's own website (pointed out by a Twitter user), it appears as though the 2020 Avalon TRD will cost $43,255. That's a lot of cheese for a Toyota sedan, we know, but the Avalon TRD (that's Toyota Racing Development, the brand's performance offshoot) will bring never-before-seen levels of intensity to the previously milquetoast four-door.
As you can see on Toyota's configurator, the Avalon TRD will offer no options beyond a $1760 package that includes built-in navigation and an upgraded JBL audio system. Simply pick from among the four paint color options—Wind Chill Pearl (white), Celestial Silver Metallic (silver), Midnight Black Metallic (um, black), and Supersonic Red (again, duh)—and ta-da, you get the sportiest Avalon ever. Even fully loaded, the TRD isn't the priciest Avalon you can buy; that honor stays with the Avalon Touring trim.
Toyota's summary of what sets the production Avalon TRD apart from other Avalons is dubbed "TRD Details," which we'll shorten to "TRDetails" here. Those TRDetails include 19-inch matte-black-finished wheels; a TRD aerodynamics package with black-painted side skirts and front and rear spoilers; a TRD-tuned sport suspension; 12.9-inch front brake rotors and red-painted calipers front and rear; and a cat-back TRD-branded exhaust system. The performance upgrades don't impact the Avalon's horsepower, and the 3.5-liter V-6 sends the same 301 horsepower to the front wheels as it does in other Avalons.
TRDetails aside, we're most excited for what the Avalon TRD portends: Toyota's rediscovery of performance and excitement in its products, which is highlighted by the all-new Supra sports car but backed up by the cool lineup of TRD Pro off-roaders (like the 4Runner SUV and Tacoma and Tundra pickups) and the upcoming Camry TRD based on the Avalon's smaller mid-size sibling.
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I'd estimate half or more will lease. A $43k sedan should lease for $350-399/mo. I think it's a good price for a fancy full-sized sedan
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So the standard Camry was not busy enough with all its crazy angles and distracting/ugly lines, they had to make it even worse. I don't get the point............. Who exactly drives these "TRD" badged cars? I'm trying to put myself in someones head that wants one of these, and I'm not having much luck as I can't seem to come up with anything positive.
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That price is way too much. Toyota is acting like 300 HP is some groundbreaking number. There are too many options in this Price range.
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Kudos to Toyota for doing something with their sedans. While others complain about the lack of sedans and the overwhelming focus on cross overs, here is a case where Toyota is doing something different. Although it is odd for a Avalon to get a performance version, I will say it is better than having the model cancelled etc. Well done Toyota!
I look forward to reading any reviews and it will be interesting to see if there is some better handling out of this set up.
I look forward to reading any reviews and it will be interesting to see if there is some better handling out of this set up.
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It's not really about power. In this category and segment, mundane Toyota sedans, horsepower is not what shoppers care about. If they want anything, it's some appearance and/or exclusivity. Or another way to put it, look at the average age of an Avalon buyer- not concerned about drag racing from stop lights.