Originally Posted by mmarshall

Well, considering that the last S-series Saturn was built in 2000 or 2001, no, they aren't likely to be in mint condition. One cannot argue the success of these cars, however, until the bozos in GM marketing decided to make the division another Oldsmobile.

My affection for these cars and their ingenuity is not simply based on image or hearsay, but ownership experience as well. And, as far as integrity was concerned, my SL-2 sedan was sqeak and rattle-free except for a poorly-fitted upper-dash panel made of (what else)....plastic LOL. Saturn, to my knowledge, made only one serious mistake with the whole line of S-series cars. The later 2Gen 3-door coupes, with one small half-rear-door on the drivers' side, seemed to have had a shimmy at cruise speeds that was all but impossible to address because of the difference between the left side and right side of the unibody in rigidity.



Definitely. I'm with you there. I'll probably go to my grave b**ching about what GM's management did to that division...and those cars. It was more criminal than Hillary's E-mails LOL.

(They generally redeemed themselves, though, by keeping Buick instead of Pontiac)

Originally Posted by Byprodrive

The 2003 Saturn Vue was the worst vehicle I ever drove during my 5 years working as a press vehicle test driver. The steering was terrible, made me feel like a sub par driver.

Originally Posted by Johnhav430

I remember I had a roommate in college who had to mix oil and gas in his car. I have no clue what year that would have been, but that car may have been 40 yo at the time. This dude was really good with cars. He pulled the motor out of my Volvo to look at it, and found nothing wrong, and put it back. He told me something might be up with the bottom end and if so he'll rebuild it for me if I buy the parts, so I borrowed my mom's credit card and ordered them. lol

Originally Posted by mmarshall

Yes. The late 70s/early-80s Dodge/Plymouth Colt, which was Mitsubishi-designed and built, had a regular 4-speed manual transmission with a separate two-speed final-drive-unit, which gave eight possible forward speeds. There was an extra gear lever inside...they called it the "Twin'Stick".

(it was essentially the American-market version/rebadge of the Mitsubishi Mirage)

Originally Posted by natman

Probably a 60's Saab 96. Used a 2 stroke engine, would need oil in the gas.

Originally Posted by Stereorob

time capsule cars are always fun. i had one in recent memory that was one.

in 2008 i had a 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis. only had 20k miles on it. it was litreally a brand new car. last year of the big boxy ones with all the chrome. wish i still had it! still smelled new, zero wear on anything. it was surgically clean. ran it as my DD for 2 years. unfortunatky because of the super low miles, everything was still OEM and it broke down on my constantly. i was always having problems with it. the final straw was when it blew the head gasket at 55k and that was the end of it. it deterioated very fast being used as a daily. sure was fun while it lasted tho! lemme see if i can find some pics.

Originally Posted by Bob04

Mileage-wise, I currently have a 2004 LS430 that is in a similar situation. It has 22,300 miles on it. I keep it garaged and drive it a few miles every couple of weeks to keep everything working. Still even smells new.