Say what you want about Musk, but I love this...
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On top of that, I looked at a brand new Range Rover a few years ago and it was a very similar setup. It was right when the refreshed body style came out and demand was exceeding supply. Refundable deposit secured your place in line, but then you had to pay a decent amount once your Rover was about to be produced. When you have the ability to customize a car from the factory, the manufacturer needs to protect themselves to a certain degree and get some money up front for producing what may be a slightly unique vehicle based on colors and options if you choose to back out.
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I do not have a reservation for the Model 3, but I think if I did I would be furious that Musk has done a switcheroo--he isn't going to build the cheap versions of the car that got everyone so excited. No, he is pushing the long-range $55K+ version, and moving folks with those preferences to the head of the line. And the patient base-model reservations folks will probably not get the $7.5K federal gift by the time their cars are ready.
So Musk has said one thing and then done another. He's done it in order to get more revenue to his slowly-suffocating company, but it's still called lying. I worked for Apple back in the early days of Mac. Steve Jobs was a pain to work with at times but I don't recall him jerking customers around.
That's how I see it. If I am mistaken about any of this, let me know.
So Musk has said one thing and then done another. He's done it in order to get more revenue to his slowly-suffocating company, but it's still called lying. I worked for Apple back in the early days of Mac. Steve Jobs was a pain to work with at times but I don't recall him jerking customers around.
That's how I see it. If I am mistaken about any of this, let me know.
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I do not have a reservation for the Model 3, but I think if I did I would be furious that Musk has done a switcheroo--he isn't going to build the cheap versions of the car that got everyone so excited. No, he is pushing the long-range $55K+ version, and moving folks with those preferences to the head of the line. And the patient base-model reservations folks will probably not get the $7.5K federal gift by the time their cars are ready.
So Musk has said one thing and then done another. He's done it in order to get more revenue to his slowly-suffocating company, but it's still called lying. I worked for Apple back in the early days of Mac. Steve Jobs was a pain to work with at times but I don't recall him jerking customers around.
That's how I see it. If I am mistaken about any of this, let me know.
So Musk has said one thing and then done another. He's done it in order to get more revenue to his slowly-suffocating company, but it's still called lying. I worked for Apple back in the early days of Mac. Steve Jobs was a pain to work with at times but I don't recall him jerking customers around.
That's how I see it. If I am mistaken about any of this, let me know.
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and that's one area i'm 100% i agreement with tesla on. You don't get to have dealers for free. You have a mac. Maybe you did or didn't buy it at an apple store, but apple stores are a huge reason apple has done so well, not relying on lousy uneducated salespeople like at best buy.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-02-18 at 02:25 PM.
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The Apple store is a hilarious place honestly, you want a taste of what being in a cult is like? Go there. Also the people working their are drones they don't have much knowledge. They are not good at fixing their products either see Louis Rossman on Youtube. I've never been in a Tesla store but I imagine the cult like environment is not too far off from Apple. On the plus side from what I've seen Tesla has amazing customer service, unless you buy a salvage or a car that Tesla deems outside of their standards. Then you get nothing, you're cut off completely.
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