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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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If I don’t end up keeping my GS, this is the front runner for a replacement vehicle.
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Old Dec 26, 2017 | 06:53 PM
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An option on screen for the Alex review you posted shows his comparison of the Stinger GT2 to the Q50S with the 300hp V-6. He really liked the Stinger. I assume the sample you get is going to be AWD and I will be interested in your view on how this handles. Be prepared the first time you nail the throttle - it's not a Tesla but it is really quick. The 0-60 time matches the RC-F, but the mid range torque of the Stinger really hits hard from about 30 mph. None of my "old time muscle cars" ever had this kind of acceleration including a Super Duty Pontiac GP and a Mustang 428 Cobra-Jet. Of course, none of them had 8 speed transmissions and modern tires.
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I've heard of Super Duty Catalina's but not Grand Prix's.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 06:24 AM
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I've heard of Super Duty Catalina's but not Grand Prix's.
"Super Duty" was Pontiac's name for their highest performance engine. In my case, the optional engine in my 1969 Grand Prix SJ.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
If I don’t end up keeping my GS, this is the front runner for a replacement vehicle.
I would be very tempted by this over the GSF, especially with that usable performance at that price!
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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Auto Guide just did a "car of the year" test:

They selected an odd combination of cars: base 4 cyl Stinger, V-6 Turbo Alfa, 4 cyl Camry XSE, 2.0 turbo Accord, and an Impressa.

I expected the Gulia to win in a slam dunk but it did not. They loved the looks, the steering, the acceleration. They hated the interior ergonomics, the tiny back seat, the rock hard ride, and the $84,000 price.
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 02:39 PM
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https://www.motor1.com/reviews/22542...er-comparison/
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 03:05 PM
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Now that the Stinger is out, there will be a lot of interesting comparisons. In this case my personal preference is with the BMW by a whisker. Stinger will be good competition for a variety of brands/models.
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Originally Posted by oldcajun
"Super Duty" was Pontiac's name for their highest performance engine. In my case, the optional engine in my 1969 Grand Prix SJ.
I had a '74 SD TA. Also had a '67 2+2 with the highest HP engine that year, the 428 HO, same as 1969. SD engines were installed at the factory in 1961-1963 & 1973-1974 only.
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Byprodrive
I had a '74 SD TA. Also had a '67 2+2 with the highest HP engine that year, the 428 HO, same as 1969. SD engines were installed at the factory in 1961-1963 & 1973-1974 only.

The largest Grand Prix engine I can remember was the 455, but, if my memory is correct, that didn't come out till 1970....and replaced the 428. A version of the 455 also went into the GTO Judge with the bright orange paint and flame-graphics on the fenders.
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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Now that the Stinger is out, there will be a lot of interesting comparisons. In this case my personal preference is with the BMW by a whisker. Stinger will be good competition for a variety of brands/models.
Which BMW do you prefer the Stinger to?............I assume you mean the 340, as it is, mechanically, probably the closest one.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The largest Grand Prix engine I can remember was the 455, but, if my memory is correct, that didn't come out till 1970....and replaced the 428. A version of the 455 also went into the GTO Judge with the bright orange paint and flame-graphics on the fenders.
Yes GM engines were limited to 7 litres as a result of the "Ban" on racing a few years earlier. The displacement limitation was lifted for 1970 which yielded the 455 for B O P & 454 for Chevy
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Which BMW do you prefer the Stinger to?............I assume you mean the 340, as it is, mechanically, probably the closest one.
The 430i Grand Coupe that was covered in the motor1.com link from F1 Driver.

https://www.motor1.com/reviews/22542...er-comparison/
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Originally Posted by JDR76
If I don’t end up keeping my GS, this is the front runner for a replacement vehicle.

Check your local dealer's web-sites for inventory. Stingers are just starting to arrive now, although the ones officially listed on dealer-inventory sites aren't necessarily there yet.....dealers load them up on the sites sometimes when they order them. Sometimes they will be marked "In Transit"...other times, not.

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Old Dec 28, 2017 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by F1Driver
In terms of performance and handling the Stinger comes up short compared to the Q50 Red Sport 400. Q50 Red Sport 400 is faster to 60 mph, pulls higher G's, quicker through the slalom and stops shorter
tell me how that crow tastes?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...gt-test-review

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Originally Posted by Byprodrive
I had a '74 SD TA. Also had a '67 2+2 with the highest HP engine that year, the 428 HO, same as 1969. SD engines were installed at the factory in 1961-1963 & 1973-1974 only.
OK, it was a long time ago. As I remember, the base engine was 370 hp and the HO was 400. About right?
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