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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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The funny thing with the 6 is, that in Europe and the JDM market this sedan already has an AWD option to make it that much more practical as a sporty all season cruiser. So all they need now is to bring some of that engineering and some CX9 bits to this platform, and you have the perfect enthusiast's sedan with excellent material quality and fit/finish etc. This car looks nicer and also different from the rest of the herd, while having a much nicer driving experience.
Unfortunately, AWD would make the cost out of its league.

man I love this design and engine... but I’m so scared of Mazda reliability...

if if the new accord looked half as good, I would be all over it..
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
Unfortunately, AWD would make the cost out of its league.

man I love this design and engine... but I’m so scared of Mazda reliability...
Ford offers an AWD Fusion with a 2.7 V6 that packs a heck of a punch, and even then there are garden variety Fusions with AWD available too. Mazda can do the same since they have a popular line of SUV's to bolster sales. Unlike other manufacturers, Mazda doesn't have a luxury line division, so they have the money to spend on their mainline vehicles. They already offer an AWD 6 elsewhere.
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Ford offers an AWD Fusion with a 2.7 V6 that packs a heck of a punch, and even then there are garden variety Fusions with AWD available too. Mazda can do the same since they have a popular line of SUV's to bolster sales. Unlike other manufacturers, Mazda doesn't have a luxury line division, so they have the money to spend on their mainline vehicles. They already offer an AWD 6 elsewhere.
It’s a Ford....
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
Unfortunately, AWD would make the cost out of its league.

man I love this design and engine... but I’m so scared of Mazda reliability...

if if the new accord looked half as good, I would be all over it..
mazda no longer has ford parts., and their cars are entirely made in Japan.

I'm not scared of mazda reliability. And Russia is full of mazdas.
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
It’s a Ford....
Nope. Those days have been gone for a while. The Mazda Tribute, discontinued in 2011, was the last Ford/Mazda rebadge.
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Read at another source that it makes more power on 93 than on regular. Goes to show you that premium fuel does still make a difference

http://driving.ca/mazda/mazda6/auto-...inspired-looks
That's the same case as with the current CX-9. 227 hp with 89; 250 with 93. But torque is the same regardless of octane at 310.
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I had a loaner 328i back in '16 for 4 1/2 mos. I usually drove in ECO PRO and with the engine start/stop activated to maximize the mpgs. Before I turned it in, my colleague said you have to try it in launch mode. It only let me do it 2X but it must have been doing a 5.5'ish 0-60. Rough as all h*** as is inherent with 4 cyl motors, but very quick. imho once you're used to an I6, the I4 is a racket....
Sport Mode? 328 doesn't have "launch mode". EcoPro is exactly as it sounds; but Sport Mode is very responsive.
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
Unfortunately, AWD would make the cost out of its league.

man I love this design and engine... but I’m so scared of Mazda reliability...

if if the new accord looked half as good, I would be all over it..
Why can't they just offer AWD as a separate trim level? No need to make AWD standard.
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 07:11 PM
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Yea I know the Ford and Mazda ended their relationship long time ago.

MattyG’s comment about the Fusion.. that at the end of the day it’s a Ford..

Jury is still out on Mazda’s reliability I heard. It’s with the levels of Hyundai/Kia..

mazda 6 looks w Honda reliability.. one can only dreaM
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Wondering how this compares with current Accord and Camry. This is exactly what the Mazda 6 needs! I loved my time with this car as a rental.
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I’m with you on that.. we are on the same team..
feel like the price could go past $35k mark.. then the Q50 AWD is on the same page...
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
Jury is still out on Mazda’s reliability I heard. It’s with the levels of Hyundai/Kia..
Kia's reliability is actually quite good......up near the top, from several different sources. Hyundai's, somewhat less so.
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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I hope mazda doesn't make the engine a top trim exclusive.
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Old Nov 15, 2017 | 08:46 PM
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Mazdas are the only decent cars amongst pedestrian segment. Camry is just a disposable livery junk in comparison.
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I've heard reliability with Mazda is quite good, provided it isn't a Ford rebadge(Tribute, Ranger truck, etc). I've looked at cheaper Miatas, it isn't uncommon to find them with over 200k on them, original engine/trans, runs like a top. Same thing with older 3's. There was one SUV they made(CX-7 I think) that was a turkey, had a problem with blown motors.

Personally I've always thought the Mazda 6 was the best looking car in this segment by a mile, same thing with the interior, it looked the best/felt the best IMO. Interior wise its 1 step ahead of the new Camry and was about on-par with the last gen Accord in terms of quality. Haven't sat in a new Accord to compare, but that's one car I wouldn't buy just based on looks alone.

Glad to see they finally put a high performance motor under the hood. This will be interesting to see which one Car and Driver picks in their upcoming comparision test, as the editors there have always had a hard on for the Accord and most things Mazda.
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