July 2017 Sales Thread
08-02-17, 07:31 AM
#31
Lexus Fanatic
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i also see quite a few macans out and about... awesome looking vehicle. 
08-02-17, 11:16 AM
#32
Lexus Fanatic
I don't think the 720S looks better then the NSX, it looks kind of plain to me and I do not like the rer end. I think the NSX looks much better and will be more reliable and much less expensive to maintain. 650 and 675 look nice but they are much more expensive. 0 to 60 is not that far off from each other.
08-02-17, 11:17 AM
#33
Back to the Ford GT
The target is to build 1000 cars in 4 years
So they need to average 20.83 cars per month
The ramp up has been slow to maintain quality and they delivered 8 in July
Some customers received notice that their car or ability to order one is moving out
I wonder how long it will actually take to build the 1000 cars
The target is to build 1000 cars in 4 years
So they need to average 20.83 cars per month
The ramp up has been slow to maintain quality and they delivered 8 in July
Some customers received notice that their car or ability to order one is moving out
I wonder how long it will actually take to build the 1000 cars
08-02-17, 12:26 PM
#34
Had the opportunity to drive a Panamera Hybrid as a loaner while my Macan was being serviced, an absolutely awesome piece of engineering, bloody fast, handles superbly, and costs a fortune. I can see why Panamera sales are up. As far as the Macan, hard to describe how well these handle. I've pretty much been a Lexus person, but the Macan is just simply a drivers vehicle and unfortunately the RX is not.
08-02-17, 04:34 PM
#35
Thanks Orzel
Back to the LFA, some one at Yahoo noted the 2012 LFA sold in July 2017 and contacted Toyota and were told that 12 unregistered cars are in US dealer inventory.
Some of these are cars dealers are just keeping but it was more trivia to the yesterday's trivia.
Back to the LFA, some one at Yahoo noted the 2012 LFA sold in July 2017 and contacted Toyota and were told that 12 unregistered cars are in US dealer inventory.
Some of these are cars dealers are just keeping but it was more trivia to the yesterday's trivia.
08-03-17, 12:06 AM
#38
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2011 = 62
2012 = 43, correction 46
2013 = 23
2014 = 17
2015 = 9
2016 = 6
2017 = 1
Total = 164
Last edited by Trexus; 08-06-17 at 12:06 AM.
08-03-17, 03:22 AM
#39
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
Hybrids
http://www.hybridcars.com/july-2017-dashboard/
July 2017 Dashboardby Jeff Cobb August 2, 2017
The HybridCars.com monthly sales Dashboard is a collaboration of HybridCars.com and Baum & Associates, a Michigan-based market research firm focusing on automotive issues including the hybrid and electric vehicle market.
Overall sales for July were down from a year ago and from June. Clearly, sales this year are down from a year ago and this trend is likely to continue with the overall decline for the year is currently at 3 percent. Each of the categories was down from June, but electrics and plug-ins were up from year-ago. Year-to-date, all categories were up except for diesels.
Sales for full electric vehicles were down from June and flat as compared to last July. Of course, year-to-date sales are up significantly based primarily on new entries. While the Model 3 hit the market in small numbers in July (30), sales of both the Model S and X were down due in part to the impact of the new Model 3 on the production line. Over the next several months, Model 3 production (and sales) will of course ramp up, but there will be some negative impact on the Model S and X.
Meanwhile, the Chevrolet Bolt had its best month ever in July, with just under 2,000 units sold. The vehicle will be available throughout the country in August, although supplies remain focused on the West Coast and the mid-Atlantic. We do not expect monthly sales to be far above 2,000 in the coming months. The Leaf had a poor month which will continue until the new model arrives early next year. Besides the introduction of the Model 3, the Honda Clarity battery electric vehicle (BEV) is also new this month. The Clarity name has been used for the fuel cell version, and will also appear as a plug-in at a later date.
Hybrid sales were down from June and last July, with the Prius Liftback still leading the category. That said, the vehicle remains well below previous years. The Toyota RAV4 had another good month, as did the Kia Niro which is moving towards the top of the category after a few months on the market. It of course benefits from its crossover body style, but its off road capabilities are limited (presumably this is not a problem to most buyers). The Fusion and C-Max hybrids had poor months, the former based on lower sales of the underlying model. Toyota enjoyed 60 percent hybrid market share in July, up from the just over 50 percent share it has had in previous months. Year-to-date, the biggest sources of growth come from the Kia Niro, Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, Toyota Highlander, and Hyundai Ioniq. However, these gains have been offset by declines in the Prius Liftback, Toyota Camry, Ford C-Max, Prius C, Hyundai Sonata, and Kia Optima.
The diesel segment had a terrible month based upon two factors: 1) Sales of the Ford Transit were extremely low (presumably due to a decline in sales to company fleets) and 2) Ram Pickup diesels remain off the market. However, EPA and FCA have come to an agreement on the diesel engine included in the Ram Pickup and sales are likely to resume in late August as modest production has begun. Sales of the Ford Transit should also increase going forward. Volumes for other models are rather modest with Volkswagen diesel sales down since the stock of available models that were certified for sale has been depleted.
The HybridCars.com monthly sales Dashboard is a collaboration of HybridCars.com and Baum & Associates, a Michigan-based market research firm focusing on automotive issues including the hybrid and electric vehicle market.
Overall sales for July were down from a year ago and from June. Clearly, sales this year are down from a year ago and this trend is likely to continue with the overall decline for the year is currently at 3 percent. Each of the categories was down from June, but electrics and plug-ins were up from year-ago. Year-to-date, all categories were up except for diesels.
Sales for full electric vehicles were down from June and flat as compared to last July. Of course, year-to-date sales are up significantly based primarily on new entries. While the Model 3 hit the market in small numbers in July (30), sales of both the Model S and X were down due in part to the impact of the new Model 3 on the production line. Over the next several months, Model 3 production (and sales) will of course ramp up, but there will be some negative impact on the Model S and X.
Meanwhile, the Chevrolet Bolt had its best month ever in July, with just under 2,000 units sold. The vehicle will be available throughout the country in August, although supplies remain focused on the West Coast and the mid-Atlantic. We do not expect monthly sales to be far above 2,000 in the coming months. The Leaf had a poor month which will continue until the new model arrives early next year. Besides the introduction of the Model 3, the Honda Clarity battery electric vehicle (BEV) is also new this month. The Clarity name has been used for the fuel cell version, and will also appear as a plug-in at a later date.
SEE ALSO: June 2017 Dashboard
Plug-in hybrids were down from June , but up from last July and year-to-date. The Prius Prime and the Volt led the category, with the Ford C-Max and Fusion following. Volumes of the Pacifica have been released from a quality hold and as a result volumes have been erratic over the 1st several months of availability (they remain estimated as FCA has not released sales volumes). Unlike the full electric category where Tesla and GM dominate sales, plug-in sales are split among four automakers, namely Toyota, Ford, GM, and BMW. Sales of the Mercedes C-Class were up this month, presumably because of sales to fleet buyers.Hybrid sales were down from June and last July, with the Prius Liftback still leading the category. That said, the vehicle remains well below previous years. The Toyota RAV4 had another good month, as did the Kia Niro which is moving towards the top of the category after a few months on the market. It of course benefits from its crossover body style, but its off road capabilities are limited (presumably this is not a problem to most buyers). The Fusion and C-Max hybrids had poor months, the former based on lower sales of the underlying model. Toyota enjoyed 60 percent hybrid market share in July, up from the just over 50 percent share it has had in previous months. Year-to-date, the biggest sources of growth come from the Kia Niro, Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, Toyota Highlander, and Hyundai Ioniq. However, these gains have been offset by declines in the Prius Liftback, Toyota Camry, Ford C-Max, Prius C, Hyundai Sonata, and Kia Optima.
The diesel segment had a terrible month based upon two factors: 1) Sales of the Ford Transit were extremely low (presumably due to a decline in sales to company fleets) and 2) Ram Pickup diesels remain off the market. However, EPA and FCA have come to an agreement on the diesel engine included in the Ram Pickup and sales are likely to resume in late August as modest production has begun. Sales of the Ford Transit should also increase going forward. Volumes for other models are rather modest with Volkswagen diesel sales down since the stock of available models that were certified for sale has been depleted.
08-03-17, 05:53 AM
#40
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08-03-17, 05:56 AM
#41
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still don't know why hybridcars.com tracks diesel vehicle sales. 
, correct total is 164.
08-03-17, 07:45 PM
#43
Lexus Test Driver
I don't think the 720S looks better then the NSX, it looks kind of plain to me and I do not like the rer end. I think the NSX looks much better and will be more reliable and much less expensive to maintain. 650 and 675 look nice but they are much more expensive. 0 to 60 is not that far off from each other.
I understand if you dont like how it looks but to call it plain?
Have you seen the unique doors, the all glass cockpit, the aero in the headlights - there are so many amazing and new design features.
The NSX is a good looking car but it is derivative of many other supercars and really has no unique styling attributes.
Nobody that buys these cars NEW care about reliability, now in 5yrs - yes the NSX will probably be a safer bet as a used car.
08-06-17, 12:05 AM
#44
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