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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 08:35 AM
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 09:34 AM
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I would not consider either the 10-speed automatic transmission or the addition of the 4-speed automatic on the back-end of the Lexus Hybrid Drive electronic-CVT to be "changing tack". I consider them to be an evolution rather than an revolution.

But then, so few of these enthusiast websites really understand the eCVT/Power-split Device (PSD) hybrid transmission that Toyota uses; it is NOT a CVT in the normal, belt-and-pulleys sense.
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Originally Posted by Sulu
But then, so few of these enthusiast websites really understand the eCVT/Power-split Device (PSD) hybrid transmission that Toyota uses; it is NOT a CVT in the normal, belt-and-pulleys sense.
I think there would be less confusion if Lexus said they were using a 'PSD' transmission rather than the term 'eCVT', since it is not a belt/pulley like you mention.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
I think there would be less confusion if Lexus said they were using a 'PSD' transmission rather than the term 'eCVT', since it is not a belt/pulley like you mention.
amen to that!
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DrivelineNews
Lexus, Toyota’s premium brand, will introduce its first stepped transmission system with the hybrid version of its latest and most prestigious model, the LC 500 luxury coupé.
I stopped reading here.

People just don't realize that the stepped transmission has been in the Lexus GS450h since 2005. The LC500h simply bumped the 2AT in the GS450h to a 4AT one that's all. That's on top of the eCVT that exists in all Toyota/Lexus hybrids of course.
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Old Mar 31, 2016 | 07:07 PM
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Not quite, the GS450h and LS600h add a second planetary gearset to the PSD to handle more torque and for better high speed efficiency. The LC500h adds an actual 4-speed AT to the PSD for a more direct feel and better throttle response.

The CVT-like rubber band effect has been a big complaint on PSD hybrids because road speed and engine speed aren't linear. Toyota hybrids don't use a belt and pulley CVT but the feel is similar; why they keep calling it an eCVT is anyone's guess.
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Originally Posted by chromedome
Not quite, the GS450h and LS600h add a second planetary gearset to the PSD to handle more torque and for better high speed efficiency. The LC500h adds an actual 4-speed AT to the PSD for a more direct feel and better throttle response.

The CVT-like rubber band effect has been a big complaint on PSD hybrids because road speed and engine speed aren't linear. Toyota hybrids don't use a belt and pulley CVT but the feel is similar; why they keep calling it an eCVT is anyone's guess.

they call them eCVT since it is easier to understand... they also feel different from reg cvts since electric motor will give instant power while with traditional cvt in small engined car traditionally sucks since you get a lot of noise but have to wait for power to come.
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Originally Posted by ydooby
Originally Posted by DrivelineNews
Lexus, Toyota’s premium brand, will introduce its first stepped transmission system with the hybrid version of its latest and most prestigious model, the LC 500 luxury coupé.
I stopped reading here.

People just don't realize that the stepped transmission has been in the Lexus GS450h since 2005. The LC500h simply bumped the 2AT in the GS450h to a 4AT one that's all. That's on top of the eCVT that exists in all Toyota/Lexus hybrids of course.
I very nearly stopped reading there also, thinking this was another hybrid vehicle know-it-all who actually knows nothing.

Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
I think there would be less confusion if Lexus said they were using a 'PSD' transmission rather than the term 'eCVT', since it is not a belt/pulley like you mention.
Originally Posted by spwolf
they call them eCVT since it is easier to understand... they also feel different from reg cvts since electric motor will give instant power while with traditional cvt in small engined car traditionally sucks since you get a lot of noise but have to wait for power to come.
This is what I think also. The PSD is so different that labelling it that to the outside world would truly confuse everyone (even more than they are now). Note that GM does not call its Voltec transmsission (what is in the Volt) as PSD.
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