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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 07:29 PM
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Default New stable mate to the GS






2015 F10 MSport.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 09:26 PM
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beautiful car
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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Awesome... Congrats!!!
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Thanks. The GS drives better plus actually has better tech and niceties.

And. Then there is this...










Dealer cited the manual and said its normal.
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 10:27 PM
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Congrats. Looks nice but damn that's normal whenever u wash the car? If its on the manual, I guess it's normal but still hmm...
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Old Jul 6, 2015 | 11:11 PM
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I don't think my GS lights ever have condensation when washing it. I know I'm not blind cause I woulda freak out and go straight to my sales manager demanding a new car.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 01:38 AM
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Condensation in headlight is definitely not normal.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 03:39 AM
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Congrats on the purchase, was gonna say the condensation is normal happened to us when we got the X5 after a couple of weeks it went away and never came back.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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Beautiful ride.

As for the condensation, I've seen it occur on both BMW and Mercedes with notes in the manual about it being "normal". Google "BMW headlight condensation" and you'll find lots of discussion about it.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 09:54 AM
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Congrats on the beautiful new car!

When you say that the GS rides better, do you mean handling, ride comfort, or both? My old E39 540i definitely performed/handled better, but the GS has a more comfortable ride.
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 10:18 AM
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Congrats, the twin turbos must be fun though! (Assuming that is a 535i M-sport)

The headlight condensation is definitely weird and I'm coming from an owner of two 2015+ BMWs..

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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 11:21 AM
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I washed the car again to test for condensation and it didn't do it this go around. Hopefully it's gone... Guess its a German thing.

Mine is a 535i M-Sport with the 704 suspension. I had an LCI E60 535i before and that car was a great handling machine. The GS350 FSport's driving dynamics reminds me a lot of that car. Kinda like an E60 with a little more forgiving set of dampers and spring setup. But overall steering, driving dynamics and corning stance feels very similar. It's a very confidence inducing setup. The GS feels smaller than it is when you are pushing it through corners and transitions. It shrinks the harder you push.

The F10 on the other hand has lost a lot of the traditional BMW feeling. It just doesn't feel as connected to the road. The mid cycle refresh brought some of the life back but it's still not what I had with the E60 or GS. Ride comfort is fairly similar between the GS and 535i (GS FSport is slightly stiffer). It's just not as nimble or agile when compared to the GS. The GS feels like it shrinks in transitions, the 535i feels its size at all speeds. It has slightly more body roll and requires constant attention to steering input. I'm sure it's capable but it just doesn't feel natural. It's hard to explain but the 535i doesn't feel as connected to the road.

BTW. I just installed the M sport exhaust and while it doesn't do hardly anything in terms of power, the sound is amazing, especially in Sport/Sport+ modes. Not so much in Normal (Comfort) mode as the transmission has a tendency to shift up at very low RPMs but when it revs up....

If I had to pick a car for a spirited drive through the canyons I'd definitely go with the GS F Sport. It'd be a toss up if it were just an open stretch of highway.

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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 12:49 PM
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that's how i feel too. the 4gs drives a lot smaller than what it is. the f10 drivers bigger than what it is
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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 12:55 PM
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Thanks for the pictures and more importantly, the direct comparison rijc99! Congrats buddy.

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Old Jul 7, 2015 | 01:34 PM
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There are no twin turbos in this car. It has a single twin scroll turbo (BMW TwinPower). There is a big difference.

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Congrats, the twin turbos must be fun though! (Assuming that is a 535i M-sport)

The headlight condensation is definitely weird and I'm coming from an owner of two 2015+ BMWs..

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