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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
(Post 8993871)
Looks like they're just changing the front bumper and headlights, and likely the rear will see some minor visual updates as well. The most boring part of the ES design is the slab sides, which probably won't see any changes.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
(Post 8994108)
Misleading thread title, which is becoming an epidemic in the auto journalist field. This is not "the new ES," but a basic facelift. New lights, grille, and interior trim will be about it, so nothing surprising here. I'd be shocked if they added the new RX engine. Those who have bought the current ES have not complained about lack of power.
Usually New means new MY :-)... but in this case, it is MMC plus for FMC they would likely say "All New" |
I'd be shocked if it didn't have the same engine as the new RX does. No reason not to, its basically the same engine with direct injection.
So that means the refreshed GS needs more power... |
Originally Posted by SW13GS
(Post 8994383)
I'd be shocked if it didn't have the same engine as the new RX does. No reason not to, its basically the same engine with direct injection.
So that means the refreshed GS needs more power... |
Originally Posted by SW13GS
(Post 8994383)
I'd be shocked if it didn't have the same engine as the new RX does. No reason not to, its basically the same engine with direct injection.
So that means the refreshed GS needs more power... If they update that engines across the board it will be interesting, imagine a Camry V6 with 300 HP ! |
Originally Posted by sorptd
(Post 8994490)
While i hope they give the new ES same engine as the new RX it should mainly be to extract few more mpg's IMO ; in terms of power the current engines does just fine.
If they update that engines across the board it will be interesting, imagine a Camry V6 with 300 HP ! |
Cool headlights. My gripe has always been the interior and the poor quality (for a Lexus) plastics. Improve it please.
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Originally Posted by SW13GS
(Post 8994383)
I'd be shocked if it didn't have the same engine as the new RX does. No reason not to, its basically the same engine with direct injection.
So that means the refreshed GS needs more power... If it ends up having atkinson cycle, then they consider this basically part of their new engines, with everything basically new except for the block. |
Interesting. I don't mind the 2ES dual projector look one bit.
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I hope Lexus improve the ride and get rid of the cheap plastics.
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The LS AVS has a Comfort mode.
I rode about 70 miles today in my buddy's new F Sport GS, I was struck by how well it rode even with the F Sport tuned AVS and the 19s. The AVS does a great job of not letting a firmer sportier drive detract from ride quality. |
Originally Posted by SW13GS
(Post 8994771)
The LS AVS has a Comfort mode.
I rode about 70 miles today in my buddy's new F Sport GS, I was struck by how well it rode even with the F Sport tuned AVS and the 19s. The AVS does a great job of not letting a firmer sportier drive detract from ride quality. http://www.lexus.com/cm-img/gallery/...357-L46775.jpg Oddly enough with the LS DMS you can't run COMFORT and ECO together, you can only run them independently. They should add a COMFORT+ that can run both if the driver desires. |
Originally Posted by stlgrym3
(Post 8994615)
my guess is the new ES will get the same engine as the new RX. Lexus will upgrade the current 3.5 V6 use by GS and IS to an even higher HP number for their refreshes, say 320-350hp
That would be 100hp / litre of displacement. Few engines can do that without forced induction. Engines that can typically are screamers, reaching peak hp at nosebleed-level rpms (very peaky engines with terrible torque curves). |
Originally Posted by spwolf
(Post 8994293)
its from official PR... They will be certainly adding the engine, it is not just power, but also MPG... and competitiveness overall.
Usually New means new MY :-)... but in this case, it is MMC plus for FMC they would likely say "All New" |
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