View Poll Results: Which new model will debut at the 2014 LA Auto Show in November?
GS F
22
36.67%
TX
2
3.33%
RC variant (convertible or 4 door coupe)
14
23.33%
CT sedan
2
3.33%
5LS
6
10.00%
3SC
3
5.00%
3IS F
2
3.33%
4RX
8
13.33%
2LFA
0
0%
2CT
0
0%
4LX
0
0%
2HS
1
1.67%
Other
0
0%
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Lexus LF-C2 Convertible Debuts (pg.20, post#290)
with what you say, the m5 is now more comfortable and softer than before, so it's a good thing now?
you are just pointing out what i have said. and like i said i fully understand the cost on the platform given the car probably won't sell in huge volume. but it is what it is when lexus was determined to have a different platform for their coupes, vs the same (or very similar) chassis for mb and bmw
3963# for the old AMG
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...07-test-review
Even the new Mustang is over 3800#. This is the nature of V8 cars now. This 3600# number for the new V8 is based on euro spec. Remember when euro specs said the new M3 would be 3300#. Then it really weighed almost 3700#. The new V8 AMG isnt going to be ~3600# thats lighter than an IS350
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...07-test-review
Even the new Mustang is over 3800#. This is the nature of V8 cars now. This 3600# number for the new V8 is based on euro spec. Remember when euro specs said the new M3 would be 3300#. Then it really weighed almost 3700#. The new V8 AMG isnt going to be ~3600# thats lighter than an IS350
I've been stating all along being new C-class chassis, not the old one.
You're confusing me. You're talking about 3800lb Mustang V8, and you throw in 3600lb weight of EU-spec C63 AMG.
UK Spec M3 is 3603lb, so I don't know where you get 3300lb figure,
Last edited by cino; Nov 7, 2014 at 01:06 PM.
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I was actually thinking and was going to write almost the same exact thing, even the hello kitty part. I just don't understand the love with such small weak effeminate cars in Japan and why those types of cars are so prominently showcased at their auto shows.
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Define good chassis. I'm too young to drive a luxury boat, so a comfortable ride isn't priority, though I don't think M4 is any more uncomfortable compare to RC-F.
I admit, I've never driven the car, but having driven many cars since I was 12-13, from small roadster to full-size truck with some high performance cars in between, I don't think weight has anything to do with spec racing and it's always a big plus from performance stand point, which is where those cars stand. In fact, Lexus is the one should be called spec racer making more powerful engine, but disappointing with clumsy chassis.
You can accept RC-F as it is, but I personally think their best isn't good enough. They can try again with IS-F. If rumor about V6 TT IS-F is correct, I hope it finds in way into the new Supra with BMW CF reinforced chassis.
I admit, I've never driven the car, but having driven many cars since I was 12-13, from small roadster to full-size truck with some high performance cars in between, I don't think weight has anything to do with spec racing and it's always a big plus from performance stand point, which is where those cars stand. In fact, Lexus is the one should be called spec racer making more powerful engine, but disappointing with clumsy chassis.
You can accept RC-F as it is, but I personally think their best isn't good enough. They can try again with IS-F. If rumor about V6 TT IS-F is correct, I hope it finds in way into the new Supra with BMW CF reinforced chassis.
If you use words like feel and soul to describe it, you also have no credibility in criticizing my statement because physics rules and we all know it.
Edit: You can try to explain me how you think a heavier car can feel the same as a lighter car when you push it to a certain point. Engine position? Weight distribution? Suspension set up? linear power? .... weight? Oh wait.
If you want buy this car to just to drive on the road to get from A to B, I definitely can see where you're coming from. And we should not go any further than this.
Edit: You can try to explain me how you think a heavier car can feel the same as a lighter car when you push it to a certain point. Engine position? Weight distribution? Suspension set up? linear power? .... weight? Oh wait.
If you want buy this car to just to drive on the road to get from A to B, I definitely can see where you're coming from. And we should not go any further than this.
Last edited by cino; Nov 10, 2014 at 12:29 AM.
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Lexus LF-C2 Convertible Concept to Debut at Los Angeles Auto Show
Source: http://lexusenthusiast.com/2014/11/1...les-auto-show/
Just announced, Lexus will debuting the new LF-C2 convertible concept at the Los Angeles auto show next week — the above teaser image has been released, and here are all the details so far:
On November 19, at the 2014 Los Angeles Auto Show, the Lexus LF-C2 Concept will make its global debut. This exciting new open-air concept will be revealed at a press conference scheduled for 1:40 p.m. in the brand’s display located in the South Hall of the Los Angeles Convention Center.
In the build up to its eventual debut, Lexus will be slowly revealing the concept on a special website — the live press conference will also be streamed live.
On November 19, at the 2014 Los Angeles Auto Show, the Lexus LF-C2 Concept will make its global debut. This exciting new open-air concept will be revealed at a press conference scheduled for 1:40 p.m. in the brand’s display located in the South Hall of the Los Angeles Convention Center.
In the build up to its eventual debut, Lexus will be slowly revealing the concept on a special website — the live press conference will also be streamed live.
Source: http://lexusenthusiast.com/2014/11/1...les-auto-show/
Folding hard top was nice on ISC and SC, but man... there are some serious design limitations when you're trying to accommodate an entire roof and support system. This will also mean less weight, which will be awesome.
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It appears to be a convertible RC...Lexus is expanding the RC line.
RC 300h
RC 350/350 awd
RC F
Soon to come:
RC 200t
RC 350C (convertible)
Absolutely no need to make a 4 door RC because Lexus already has the IS...now we just need an IS F to compete with the M3...
RC 300h
RC 350/350 awd
RC F
Soon to come:
RC 200t
RC 350C (convertible)
Absolutely no need to make a 4 door RC because Lexus already has the IS...now we just need an IS F to compete with the M3...
Last edited by Trexus; Nov 12, 2014 at 09:37 AM.