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Old Feb 26, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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Mazda's Skyactiv line of engines are already very efficient. No reason at all to bother with a diesel, at least here in the US.
Actually, there are some great reasons...their crossovers, particularly the CX-9.
Torque and good gas mileage from a Japanese mfr.....yes, please.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 02:13 AM
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dat torque though.. 173hp 310lbft
Its turbo torque though, so its still a dog off the line until the turbo pressure builds up.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 05:23 AM
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Yes, and that proved to be the wrong approach in the U.S. Mazda was even boasting about this fact on their U.S. website and how dropping it that low would allow them to get by without an SCR system. Well.........
whole point of their new diesels is low compression ratio which allows better combustion, it is the holy grail of new diesels.

In german mag testing, new SkyD engines with low compression ratio have been proven to be the fastest yet spend least fuel in the class.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 07:51 AM
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whole point of their new diesels is low compression ratio which allows better combustion, it is the holy grail of new diesels.

In german mag testing, new SkyD engines with low compression ratio have been proven to be the fastest yet spend least fuel in the class.
Go tell Jim O’Sullivan that. He obviously felt quite differently about the engine.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Och
Its turbo torque though, so its still a dog off the line until the turbo pressure builds up.
That only time it's even a minor issue is when you need to scoot across an intersection really quick with traffic coming, from a dead stop. And all it takes to get ahead of that a bit is a mild brake torque to get things pre-spooled. Otherwise they're just plain awesome. Shame about the huge delay and re-think here, but the result will be a much better product hopefully. I hope Mazda doesn't permanently can the project.... (that's what I fear is coming next)
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 10:40 AM
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I find it ironic:

The Sky-ActivD engine isn't ready for the US due to strict Nitrogen and Sulfur emission regulations

But here in the Philippines

Mazda is hesitant to bring in their diesel engine...........because it might suffer severe damage from our polluted Euro 2 Diesel Fuel
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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Once you drive one of these modern Diesels you won't want to go back.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Go tell Jim O’Sullivan that. He obviously felt quite differently about the engine.
which has nothing to do with compression ratio, but rather emissions solution they are using which stifles the performance and mpg, hence the re-thinking.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
which has nothing to do with compression ratio, but rather emissions solution they are using which stifles the performance and mpg, hence the re-thinking.
...which has to do with the uncharacteristically low compression ratio.

http://articles.sae.org/11629/

Low-compression diesels have become recognized as viable technology with several advantages in this era of stringent emissions regulations. The slower ignition that results will allow time for better mixing of air and fuel and, therefore, more complete combustion to reduce soot and NOx. In the case of the Mazda6, there’s no need for urea fluid injection aftertreatment to further reduce NOx.
The low compression IS a direct part of their emissions solution. You simply cannot argue that one is completely decoupled from the other.

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Default Mazda6 diesel reportedly a year off in the United States


Car will now use an after treatment system

According to a recent report, the Mazda6 diesel is still a year away in the United States.

According to The Truth About Cars, the model was unable to meet U.S. diesel emissions standards so engineers were forced to modify the engine. However, when the changes were made, the output dropped significantly and was deemed too low to meet customer expectations. This reportedly resulted in a major rethinking of the diesel program and a switch to an unspecified after-treatment system to lower emissions.

As a refresher, Mazda originally intended to launch the diesel-powered model in the second half of 2013. However, the company announced the car would be delayed earlier this year. At the time, the company said the "SKYACTIV-D [engine] can meet emission regulation requirements without the use of a NOx after-treatment system" but they decided "that further development is required to deliver the right balance between fuel economy and Mazda-appropriate driving performance." Nearly two months later, Mazda North America CEO Jim O’Sullivan said the car was delayed because "We didn’t think the powertrain was ‘zoom-zoom’ enough.”
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11409158...-united-states
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Old Sep 18, 2014 | 02:27 PM
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Mazda6 diesel reportedly a year off in the United States
Why am I not surprised
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Default Look of Upcoming Mazda6 Facelift Revealed via Leak

















The current Mazda6 is a car whose exterior doesn’t really need refreshing, much like the old Alfa Romeo 159 didn’t and looked very good (unchanged) throughout its active showroom life.

However, the Mazda6 is receiving a facelift, one that will probably soon be officially revealed, since it was just revealed via the leaked content posted below.

Known as the Atenza in Japan, the look of the facelifted 6 doesn’t seem to differ all that much from that of the current car. The grille looks different and is more prominent, though subtly so, and it would appear that the headlights also have a different design inside; their shape remains the same, though. The design of the bumper has also been altered somewhat, though not dramatically.

Inside is where the 6 could have benefitted more from a facelift. The interior was never bad, but some design elements like the position of the infotainment screen could have been (looked) better. With the facelift, it appears they’ve changed the way the screen sits, now resting atop the dash with no cowl.

The dashboard looks to be more different in other areas too, like the heating/ventilation controls; the steering wheel may also be different, though we can’t state that as a fact.
http://www.carscoops.com/2014/11/loo...-facelift.html
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This could be shown at LA Auto Show this month.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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It has to be shown at LA along with Miata ND and CX-3. I think the 6 looks already good as is, I'm afraid the changes might make it more bland. I will have to see it in real life for final judgement.
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Old Nov 3, 2014 | 02:16 PM
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Good on them for going with urea. DPF and EGR almost killed diesel engines in the US. Ask anybody who owned a 2007-2010(2012 for Dodge) diesel pickup. Terrible mileage, reliability problems, turbos getting full of soot, etc.
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