View Poll Results: Should Lexus kill off the GX for a new CUV (TX)?
Yes
40
41.24%
No
24
24.74%
I think there is room for both vehicles in the Lexus lineup.
33
34.02%
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Lexus RX / GX / TX speculation
07-30-13, 09:43 PM
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07-30-13, 11:07 PM
#18
But the GL is not a crossover, its an SUV.
I think the TX is meant to compete with the R-class type segment (which is kind of dead now, but maybe Lexus can revive the segment).
I can't wait 4 years for a damn TX though. I wish Lexus rolled out products faster...but I know they want to produce a good product.
I think the TX is meant to compete with the R-class type segment (which is kind of dead now, but maybe Lexus can revive the segment).
I can't wait 4 years for a damn TX though. I wish Lexus rolled out products faster...but I know they want to produce a good product.
Of course not, but it doesn't mean I'm necessarily wrong either. It's a valid point, if you're buying a "luxury" make then you'd expect first rate materials and quality. Does it make sense for a business to try and net as much profit as possible at the expense of thinning out their offerings vs doing what's best for the customer by offing what is promised to them by those who wear a luxury badge? Well that's just the age old question. I'd like to think that a company that started out with such good intentions and mindful of quality would still uphold those laurels
07-31-13, 08:31 AM
#21
Of course not, but it doesn't mean I'm necessarily wrong either. It's a valid point, if you're buying a "luxury" make then you'd expect first rate materials and quality. Does it make sense for a business to try and net as much profit as possible at the expense of thinning out their offerings vs doing what's best for the customer by offing what is promised to them by those who wear a luxury badge? Well that's just the age old question. I'd like to think that a company that started out with such good intentions and mindful of quality would still uphold those laurels
"Best for the customer" really is determined by the market. And a business is in fact designed to make as much profit as possible for themselves and their shareholders. Yes, in a consumer product type of industry, they need to cater to the needs and desires of the customers, but they also look to make the best return for their investment. In the automotive world, this often is correlated to volume.
Market for something closer to the Infiniti JX is MUCH larger than for something more akin to the Mercedes GL.
I love that there's this much speculation from a TX trademark application from Toyota. I see TX more aligned with the Tacoma TX series that has had a few special editions.
07-31-13, 09:31 AM
#22
I agree that a luxury make should have first rate materials and quality, but look around! BMW 3 series interiors are pretty shoddy in terms of materials. The plastics feel thin and cheap. ***** rotate with minimal dampening. Audi, while great in design, has sat on their laurels a bit. The slush molded dashes and door panels that they debuted way back when are still quite common throughout their lineup, including the RS5 that I just checked out. No leather stitching or softer touch materials.
"Best for the customer" really is determined by the market. And a business is in fact designed to make as much profit as possible for themselves and their shareholders. Yes, in a consumer product type of industry, they need to cater to the needs and desires of the customers, but they also look to make the best return for their investment. In the automotive world, this often is correlated to volume.
Market for something closer to the Infiniti JX is MUCH larger than for something more akin to the Mercedes GL.
I love that there's this much speculation from a TX trademark application from Toyota. I see TX more aligned with the Tacoma TX series that has had a few special editions.
"Best for the customer" really is determined by the market. And a business is in fact designed to make as much profit as possible for themselves and their shareholders. Yes, in a consumer product type of industry, they need to cater to the needs and desires of the customers, but they also look to make the best return for their investment. In the automotive world, this often is correlated to volume.
Market for something closer to the Infiniti JX is MUCH larger than for something more akin to the Mercedes GL.
I love that there's this much speculation from a TX trademark application from Toyota. I see TX more aligned with the Tacoma TX series that has had a few special editions.
I always say, I like individuals and hate people (masses - mob mentality).
07-31-13, 01:51 PM
#23
I know with the Trunda Texas edition it says "Texas" and not "TX". Also awhile back a Lexus official said that they were looking into a larger 7 seater crossover and that one of Lexus' truck based SUV maybe dropped for a car based CUV.
07-31-13, 02:00 PM
#24
Oh I also posted the same info and pics on other forums and some people though it was a brand new concept from Lexus. Someone even made a comment saying that the HPX is a rip off of the CX9, but everyone here knows it predates the Mazda.
07-31-13, 02:56 PM
#25
The Tundra "Texas" edition is not actually made by Toyota. It's a package that's developed/installed by the distributor of Toyota's for that region.
07-31-13, 06:03 PM
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I'm a huge huge fan of the GX. Most under-rated, under-appreciated vehicle in the Lexus lineup in my opinion. Tons of luxury, tons of utility/capability, and tons of value (if you carefully option the base model and keep it under $60k).
Loaded body-on-frame vehicles are cash cows for manufacturers. Just look at all the "lux" pickup trucks padding bottom lines of the domestics. Luxury body-on-frame vehicles (even loaded 4Runners) do the same for Toyota.
The body-on-frame SUV has a place in the Lexus lineup. I hope they keep it. It's a poor man's LX/Land Cruiser.
Current GX could easily be my next car.
Loaded body-on-frame vehicles are cash cows for manufacturers. Just look at all the "lux" pickup trucks padding bottom lines of the domestics. Luxury body-on-frame vehicles (even loaded 4Runners) do the same for Toyota.
The body-on-frame SUV has a place in the Lexus lineup. I hope they keep it. It's a poor man's LX/Land Cruiser.
Current GX could easily be my next car.
07-31-13, 06:39 PM
#27
I'm a huge huge fan of the GX. Most under-rated, under-appreciated vehicle in the Lexus lineup in my opinion. Tons of luxury, tons of utility/capability, and tons of value (if you carefully option the base model and keep it under $60k).
Loaded body-on-frame vehicles are cash cows for manufacturers. Just look at all the "lux" pickup trucks padding bottom lines of the domestics. Luxury body-on-frame vehicles (even loaded 4Runners) do the same for Toyota.
The body-on-frame SUV has a place in the Lexus lineup. I hope they keep it. It's a poor man's LX/Land Cruiser. Current GX could easily be my next car.
Loaded body-on-frame vehicles are cash cows for manufacturers. Just look at all the "lux" pickup trucks padding bottom lines of the domestics. Luxury body-on-frame vehicles (even loaded 4Runners) do the same for Toyota.
The body-on-frame SUV has a place in the Lexus lineup. I hope they keep it. It's a poor man's LX/Land Cruiser.
Current GX could easily be my next car.
08-01-13, 04:23 AM
#28
Actually from someone who has been using the "barn door" for 9 years I find the new generation door hinge much better than the first generation one. I know it gets a bad rap but it works fine and really I have never had a problem with it. It is very easy to open. The size of the door would make it very hard to open if it was a lift gate style door. It would need to be a split style door like the X5 or LX. The only issue I have had is when parking when I know I will need to open the back to make sure someone does not park too close to me from behind or I will not be able to open it. That has never really been an issue because I park very far away from everyone. On the new generation the back glass can open up allowing you to put items in the back without having to open the full door which is nice.
08-01-13, 06:02 AM
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Actually from someone who has been using the "barn door" for 9 years I find the new generation door hinge much better than the first generation one. I know it gets a bad rap but it works fine and really I have never had a problem with it. It is very easy to open. The size of the door would make it very hard to open if it was a lift gate style door. It would need to be a split style door like the X5 or LX. The only issue I have had is when parking when I know I will need to open the back to make sure someone does not park too close to me from behind or I will not be able to open it. That has never really been an issue because I park very far away from everyone. On the new generation the back glass can open up allowing you to put items in the back without having to open the full door which is nice.
